imajedi Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Just saw this on WUS and I noticed how poorly the crown guard fit the case. Notice the end of each side of the CG is not flush with the case. Doesn't seem gen. I also thought the crystal looked too cloudy to be gen. Is this a gen watch with a crappy build or fake?http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=2464106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hard to say, but I have seen this mismatch of CG to case in A & B series.The price is very low for an item in this amazing condition as well.Also, not sure why he wouldn't include the photo of the watch in the box.If I was serious about buying this, I'd be very careful and at minimum wanting a face to face and a direct confirmation from Panerai on the authenticity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hard to say, but I have seen this mismatch of CG to case in A & B series.The price is very low for an item in this amazing condition as well.Also, not sure why he wouldn't include the photo of the watch in the box.If I was serious about buying this, I'd be very careful and at minimum wanting a face to face and a direct confirmation from Panerai on the authenticity.I'm not a buyer, just thought the CG case mismatch was just too off to be gen. Interesting to know it does happen in some gens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 20000€ for a LSwissL dialled 036 is still a lot of cash. Mental really given the 100$ movement. Looks Gen. I thing the CG might not be screwed in properly and the photos magnify the gap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogladio Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Isn't it odd that he writes up this as a unique tritium dial when it has then l Swiss l and not the t Swiss t? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 20000€ for a LSwissL dialled 036 is still a lot of cash. Mental really given the 100$ movement. Looks Gen. I thing the CG might not be screwed in properly and the photos magnify the gapIt's definitely not the way it's screwed on. The surface of the CG that mates with the case was not made at exactly the same contour as the surface of the case. In particular, the ends do not curve down enough or the inner wall of the CG is slightly to large which causes the ends to stick up. I see this on the rep cases all the time, especially the titanium ones. I filed mine down to match better which is why I noticed it and immediately thought rep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 It's definitely not the way it's screwed on. The surface of the CG that mates with the case was not made at exactly the same contour as the surface of the case. In particular, the ends do not curve down enough or the inner wall of the CG is slightly to large which causes the ends to stick up. I see this on the rep cases all the time, especially the titanium ones. I filed mine down to match better which is why I noticed it and immediately thought repI've seen reps and early gens with a case to CG mismatch... sad, but true.Isn't it odd that he writes up this as a unique tritium dial when it has then l Swiss l and not the t Swiss t?Yes, this is odd... The devil is in the details, although I see the guy has a high post count on watchuseekThis story could go either way... in the end, I'd need a hell of a lot of convincing to go with this as gen IF I was considering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 If it is fake, the seller may not know it's fake. It may also only be partially fake. Maybe the original CG was lost and they slapped on a replacement. However, I also think the crystal looks terrible. Not clear enough for gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlocktime Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 This is real. The CG was likely replaced when the luminova service dial and hands were installed, explaining the potential mismatch. What a shame to put a luminova dial on such an iconic watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 This is real. The CG was likely replaced when the luminova service dial and hands were installed, explaining the potential mismatch. What a shame to put a luminova dial on such an iconic watch. What a shame to put a CG that fits so poorly on any Panerai watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) This is real. The CG was likely replaced when the luminova service dial and hands were installed, explaining the potential mismatch. What a shame to put a luminova dial on such an iconic watch. It appears to be a B series , so the dial is probably the dial it originally came with .check the catalogue http://postimg.org/image/tbdmh8zgfThis ebay example has a dodgy CG. http://r.ebay.com/f53bWTI think we forget that in 1998 quality wasn't a big thing Edited October 14, 2015 by StormTooper4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlocktime Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The PAM036B was originally sold with a tritium dial. In the proceeding years a few people have sent their watches in for service and had them replaced with Luminova service dials. If you see a 36B L SWISS L dial it is in a watch that has been sent for service. Like this one below...side by side: Tritium versus Luminova (Tritium is better LOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 It appears to be a B series , so the dial is probably the dial it originally came with .check the catalogue http://postimg.org/image/tbdmh8zgfThis ebay example has a dodgy CG. http://r.ebay.com/f53bWTI think we forget that in 1998 quality wasn't a big thing Holy cow that's atrocious!!! It's not even close to fitting. It's like driving around a Ferrari with donut spare tire on one of the wheels. LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Holy cow that's atrocious!!! It's not even close to fitting. It's like driving around a Ferrari with donut spare tire on one of the wheels. LoLyeah it's pretty gappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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