Opinions on 2nd new Vintage Rolex Maker (5513, 1680, 1665)

[slay]

I'm sure many of you are familiar with the Cartel maker (aka JKF) who released a load of decent Vintage Rolex recently. I saw on Ryans site that he now offers a second "Best" version that appears to be from a different maker. I don't know in what way it should be better, it's just called "best", so I'm going to keep referring to it as "best" to distinct it from the JKF/Cartel edition. 

I personally prefer the "best" version's insert. Crown guards appear to be bigger, which isn't a bad thing if you're a modder. I personally don't care about the dials, since I would never wear either one of these with the stock dial, but I assume there are plenty of others who intend to keep the dials.

Below is a side-by-side between JKF/Cartel (always on the LEFT) and the "best" version (always on the RIGHT). I'd be curious if the 1680 "best" version takes gen dials (the JKF does not without mods! Gen dials are about 0.5mm too big)

Rolex 1680 Red Sub (JKF vs. BEST):










Rolex 1665 Double Red SeaDweller (JKF vs. BEST):













I have not taken a loupe to compare them pixel-by-pixel, but here's what struck my eye.

Better on the new "Best" version:

• Bezel Insert (Fatter font & already slightly faded color)
• Bezel Ring (Slimmer, Groves not as deep)

Better on the JKF/Cartel Version:

• Clasp (rolex coronet is slimmer)
• Endlinks (they are both wrong, they shouldnt have holes for a springbar tool, but at least the JKF has the correct number -580- on the otherwise wrong endlinks)

[dpap]

Hmmm. Do you think there is enough meat on the best version for a scg?

[highoeyazmuhudee]

bezel and case back from this new "best" look better

[hologramet]

6 hours ago, dpap said:

Hmmm. Do you think there is enough meat on the best version for a scg?

It might.... 

Drill and try to sink the tube and thus Athaya 700 crown a teenie bit. 

Lengthwise the CGs should do, however creating the almost square shape in a "crown face" - projection might be on the edge. Luckily the crown is a bit flatter than 703/704.

[newswire]

The bezel teeth looks great on the "best." What's the price difference?


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[RickFlorida]

So wait, does this mean this cartel version has correct size inserts or bezel?  I ask because the regular newer Cartel has wrong size insert or bezel so they have to glue instead of tension fit.  I thought that was the biggest or only problem with the new cartel sub.   ( Besides endlinks which is not a biggie).

[hologramet]

I don't understand how JKF does parts on one watch correct and disregard completely on e.g. 5513

I would most likely prefer this one because of that.

http://www.intime.co/tudor/2959-vintage-200m-660ft-jkf-best-edition-black-round-handset-round-markers-submariner-a2836.html

Maybe they're continually improving?

[RickFlorida]

Anyone think it would be possible to order just a tudor case back that's engraved or his source never sells parts?

Edited September 16, 2016 by RickFlorida

[slay]

38 minutes ago, RickFlorida said:

Anyone think it would be possible to order just a tudor case back that's engraved or his source never sells parts?

Sead tried several times to get parts for me (I wanted an ETA movement ring for the watch), but he eventually gave up and said he tried all he could but is not getting any.

[RickFlorida]

OK thanks.   Can any expert comment if the bracelet is any better?   Or is it the same?  I ask because I read that the Yuki nor cartel bracelet clasps are far from perfect and that there are no good bracelets.   If this is improved it would be good to know.

[hologramet]

3 hours ago, RickFlorida said:

OK thanks.   Can any expert comment if the bracelet is any better?   Or is it the same?  I ask because I read that the Yuki nor cartel bracelet clasps are far from perfect and that there are no good bracelets.   If this is improved it would be good to know.

I will most likely be selling my Tudor bracelet as I'll be doing a custom solid linked Glidelock one for my 7928.

I know Rolojack was quite impressed by it. 

[RickFlorida]

After looking at the picture of side by side..... My opinion is The bracelet is the same but simply polished more.   So there still is no perfect bracelet rep.   You can see brush finish on left, and much less brush finish on right meaning it has more polished finish.

 

Where can I read/see about glidelock version and how can I make one?   

[highoeyazmuhudee]

10 hours ago, RickFlorida said:

After looking at the picture of side by side..... My opinion is The bracelet is the same but simply polished more.   So there still is no perfect bracelet rep.   You can see brush finish on left, and much less brush finish on right meaning it has more polished finish.

 

Where can I read/see about glidelock version and how can I make one?   

all the 93150 rep bracelets stink. the cartel one is still probably the "best"

[hologramet]

12 hours ago, RickFlorida said:

After looking at the picture of side by side..... My opinion is The bracelet is the same but simply polished more.   So there still is no perfect bracelet rep.   You can see brush finish on left, and much less brush finish on right meaning it has more polished finish.

 

Where can I read/see about glidelock version and how can I make one?   

Check my PCG build 5512 that Rolojack finished. 

 

 

[Emilio]

Hey guys,

Its been a little while since this thread had any action, I was wondering if anyone of you had the chance to explore the construction of those from the new maker, I like the 1665 the bezel looks way better.