Ethan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Which one did you get from him? He as several some with sub dials at 3,6,9 and one with subs at 6,9,12 Steve, I bought this one from Josh: Navitimer 3-6-9 Blue - Ref BRENAV369Blu Asia 7750 Check the Breitling website; this one is as close as you're going to get. http://www.breitling.com/en/models/navitimer/navitimer/ It's a cross between the second steel version, and the first steel/gold version with the blue dial. Like I said, near spot-on. You never want seconds at six; as Tom has pointed out before, the amount of gearing that has to be crushed down at the six o'clock position to accomplish this with a 7750 just doesn't work. This, also as Tom pointed out, is why the Nav is such a good deal; seconds at nine in rep and gen. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBombadil Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I'm doing up a Marine Chronometer 40mm with a gen rubber/titanium strap, gen dial, and appropriate ETA movement that Ulysse Nardin used, and am fabricating the correct bezel. The reps have awful dials as well as incorrect knurled bezel, pushers and crown. I can machine a correct bezel and adapt the case appropriately for the movement and dial and get the correct pushers and crown. The hands will be a challenge, as the reps are bad too. It's come together on the drawing board, and my brother (a machinist expert at miniature work) is going to be here for the weekend during which we will be drafting the final bezel sketches. It won't likely be done until summer, when I can spend some time at his house doing the machining. Wow, very cool. If you need some contacts to find hands, I posted a couple of links in the links section of the board for watch hand manufacturers. They may have what you need. I also have another contact who works for a factory where I bought hands before. If you can send her a picture, she may be able to find them for you. PM me if you are interested in that contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBombadil Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Can somebody tell me if the current batch of navitimers carry the 28k8 beat 7750 movement, or the previouse 21k6 version ? thanks I believe all of the asian ones have the older 21,600 bph movement. There are some out there that have the swiss movements though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatch-A-Doin? Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Both the Navi and the Daytona (with correct dial spacing) are nice reps. Both have problems... The Navitimer has a few...the silver sub dials are too shiny compared to the gen. The case back of some I have seen are not correct having the Breitling Fighters on the back when that was only manufactured on a special series Navi (Brietling Fighters). Another problem with the Navi's is that the white paint on the dial has a tendency to chip. I saw this first hand and also on the other forum. The Daytona has a few...the rehaut is too deep...the markers are too close to the subdials...the movt is not even close to the real deal and could have problems...the subdials are too shiny...the CGs are too big... Even with all of these issues...i'd prefer the Daytona. Why? Because most people can't tell and I've owned both the Navi (sold it) and still own the Daytona. my Daytona is still running strong and looks great. My Navi was just not cutting it for me. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher71 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Even if the Rolex was a better rep, which it is not, the breitling is still the way to go IMO -- for the average guy. In addition to breitlings being way cooler, the price difference between the genuines is fairly significant, thus when I see a Rolex on most people, especially a Daytona, the first thing to pop into my mind is "fake" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Its to bad that the date font is way to deep on the navi. Also doesent have the edges as the gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravageur Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I read some of you folks talk about ETA or swiss Navi..I thought all the Navi reps were asian 7750???!!! Which one of our dealer has a real swiss Navi and for how much? I'd like to buy an asian 7750 but I can't have it serviced here in Belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 The movement in the Breitling is a close copy to the original movement used in the Breitling. The Daytona's movement is a hack and not even close to a copy of the original movement. Because of this, the Daytona is going to have more problems. It has serious power reserve issues due to all of the extra gearing they hacked in there. Now, if you can find a franken Zenith as slayer mentioned, that is the best. But, prepare to spend a ton of scratch. Not worth in IMO. Well over $1000. Ubi should be getting his done! In my opinion, his is definately worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGladeRaider Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I got my navitimer from Josh about a week and a half ago, and I am totally pleased and can't tell the difference from the real mccoy. I have one as well. I collect reps, but I don't do anything that involves opening the case - until now. Just for the fun of it, I thought I would try to adjust the timing - guess what, the Asian 7750 does not have the whachamacallit that the real Valjoux has for that. It does, however, have the little arm that can be moved with a small screw driver or a paperclip or something. I tinkered with it, adjusting it periodically for a few days, and now the thing keeps nearly perfect time. It is 2 seconds off after 4 days. I am going to play with some of my others. BTW, duct tape makes a great case opener. You wrap a piece around the palm of your hand, sticky side out, and you cannot believe what a grip you can get on a case back that way. Just press against the case back and turn, sort of like opening a jar. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectral Posted April 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Hi, Following your advices, I finaly decided to order a Breitling Navitimer. I got it today from Homer (http://www.mulberryoutlet.co.uk/ email: homer@mulberryoutlet.co.uk). This is my first rep. I'm very satisfied. Looks like the real watch (see picture from Homer below). The rep I got looks exactly like on the pictures. Impressive ! And everything is fully functionnal (chronograph + "navigation computer"). Thank you all for helping me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I have always wanted the navitimer, but the dial issues have kept me away. As for the daytona's I see real ones everyday and have always been afraid of getting called out. If you have your heart set on one of those watches I would say a daytona with second's@9 and a full mod job from RBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faonmyea Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 when the subdial spacing on the navi are fixed, someone let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvn Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I have the Daytona second at 9 from Eddie Lee for almost a year now. Tried to sell it and the deal fell through and came back to me. But the more i wear it the more i like it. It has been working great for a year now. Just took it for 9 days vacation to the west coast (LAX) from east coast (mass). To me the asia 7750 worked good (for the second at 9 version) so my next watch will be the navitimer. How much do the dealers charge for it now a day? I have already owned a Seawolf TI with ETA 2824-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwe Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 I bought a navitmer from eddie Lee a few months ago. It was spotted as a real one by a watch lover.. ( i did put a great new leather b-strap on it). you can see it in his portfolio. Its even better then on the picture. http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/300...12622381070.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 The navitimer reps are very good. Small things like the date wheel and window, sometimes raised subdials and the 'B' on the stop watch second hand is very slightly different. Personaly I think the navitimer is one of the nicest watches out there, I would go for the navitimer every time! Would love to see a Breitling for Bentley with a swiss movement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groobash Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Would love to see a Breitling for Bentley with a swiss movement! yes, ongoing requests for a decent B for B wish someone would take our money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanx Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Breitling, Most people know of them... but VERY few realize that they make a rep, especially one as believable as what is available. Just looking at how complicated the dial is most people wouldnt believe it was a rep if you told them (unless your chrono slipped to one, but that can be easily fixed hehe). Many Rolex Daytona's have issues, and are already assumed to be fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender110 Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 i love the daytonas and i have a navi on order.. can't wait as i check the mail every day now.. the error in regard to the navi date window cutout can be easily fixed by dropping in a GENUINE DIAL. fits with no problems on the 6-9-12 models. j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanx Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Don't have a breitling dealer local (not that I would have worn it in), but was in a Rolex dealer this weekend to get another watch looked at and the owner spotted my breitling (before I could ask him about my other watch) and thought it was a gen navitimer and wouldn't leave my side with a store full of people. He did offer me 15% off any rolex in stock or special order (and he had just told a person while I was there that they dont discount Rolex). i love the daytonas and i have a navi on order.. can't wait as i check the mail every day now.. the error in regard to the navi date window cutout can be easily fixed by dropping in a GENUINE DIAL. fits with no problems on the 6-9-12 models. j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsa4ever Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I´ve had a Navitimer for 7 months now runs great no problems at all and now I´m waiting for the Daytona 116509 with modified 7750 asian hopefully great too. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitime Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Breitling, simply because less screwed-down crown means least wear and tear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitime Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I got my navitimer from Josh about a week and a half ago, and I am totally pleased and can't tell the difference from the real mccoy. yes, they come pretty close to teh gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Man Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I have to agree here on the Breitling. I have a gen Navitimer Cosmonaute that I have considered selling - but it is so beautiful that I decided I cannot part with it. Rolex's are everywhere - go with something unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 The Daytona's movement is a ticking time bomb, and is not worth the risk. The Breitling is better in general, they both are just as accurate, but the Breitling has no finicky movement issues like the Daytona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhrenfreund25 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 The Daytona's movement is a ticking time bomb, and is not worth the risk. The Breitling is better in general, they both are just as accurate, but the Breitling has no finicky movement issues like the Daytona. Don't they both have the ASIAN 7750? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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