Cats Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Can anybody help me as a newbie. Is this a chinese movement or is this a ETA6497 ?. I'm considering to buy a PAM127 with this movement. The seller says it's an ETA Regards, Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polynomial Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Looks like ETA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Old syle bridges but ETA, not right for the Fiddy it is fitted in as the fiddy had the new style bridges but a very good font engaving. it should be VERY reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam-O-licious Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 If it is ETA 6497 it will be stamped you can see it without opening it with a small flash light.. it is located above the regulartor through the winding wheel.... not sure of the proper terms but, I hope that helped.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Ah that would only mean it had an ETA base plate, but the removable hairspring pins show it has also an ETA balence and then a good chance of every thing else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polynomial Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 ... it has also an ETA balence and then a good chance of every thing else! I tend to agree with this, the balance weal that comes with original ETA is different from the one Panarei bespokes for their watches, and which Chinese have copied, hence when I see the Panarei-style balance, I doubth this is real ETA, the pretty "top" Fiddy movements that attract high prices at our dealers are likely to have Asian copy movments, SN regular, correct balance -- likely to be total Asian rather then enhanced ETA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted January 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 I tend to agree with this, the balance weal that comes with original ETA is different from the one Panarei bespokes for their watches, and which Chinese have copied, hence when I see the Panarei-style balance, I doubth this is real ETA, the pretty "top" Fiddy movements that attract high prices at our dealers are likely to have Asian copy movments, SN regular, correct balance -- likely to be total Asian rather then enhanced ETA Thanks guys for the quick response. So if i'm right it's most likely a Chinese copy of an ETA movement. If i'm able to buy this for 250 US is it a rip off or a good price regards, Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) ETA 6497-1 old Rep (around 2 years old model) movement is standard quality (but better as asia 6497) and the blue wheels are not blued, only cheap blue color (will tarnished aftoer some month/years). I don´t know if the movement is realy engraved or only pasted (like asian unitas). here a pic of movement without engraving and blue wheels. Edited January 26, 2007 by tourbillon1801 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Thanks guys for the quick response. So if i'm right it's most likely a Chinese copy of an ETA movement. If i'm able to buy this for 250 US is it a rip off or a good price regards, Cats $250 was a good price 2 years ago, when this rep comes on market. But now you can find better watches with swan´s neck and correct bridges for $300 - $350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted January 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 $250 was a good price 2 years ago, when this rep comes on market. But now you can find better watches with swan´s neck and correct bridges for $300 - $350. Ok but can i buy these PAM 127 with the new swan neck movements within the EU. The guys at the border know my name and adress so that a problem. Buy the way the guy who is offering me this watch is within the EU. Regards, Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrnixon Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 ETA 6497-1 old Rep (around 2 years old model) movement is standard quality (but better as asia 6497) and the blue wheels are not blued, only cheap blue color (will tarnished aftoer some month/years). I don´t know if the movement is realy engraved or only pasted (like asian unitas). here a pic of movement without engraving and blue wheels. I was reading your message with great interest. I was not sure if I understood you correctly though, the movements on your pictures, are they Swiss made or Asian? The reason I am asking is that I compared your pic with my movement and they appear identical. I bought my watch a month ago, it is very exact, and the rest of the watch is also wonderful with a good finish, feels solid etc. and the seller was also good (price around 300usd) . So now I am thinking about also buying the titanium version as well, but will only do so if it has a Swiss movement. The watch I bought was this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNITAS-ETA-6497-WATC...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted January 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I was reading your message with great interest. I was not sure if I understood you correctly though, the movements on your pictures, are they Swiss made or Asian? The reason I am asking is that I compared your pic with my movement and they appear identical. I bought my watch a month ago, it is very exact, and the rest of the watch is also wonderful with a good finish, feels solid etc. and the seller was also good (price around 300usd) . So now I am thinking about also buying the titanium version as well, but will only do so if it has a Swiss movement. The watch I bought was this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNITAS-ETA-6497-WATC...1QQcmdZViewItem thnaks for your reply. We are talking about the same guy. I'l will be a lot confident dealing with him Regards, Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrnixon Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 thnaks for your reply. We are talking about the same guy. I'l will be a lot confident dealing with him Regards, Cats I have, as I said above, bought a watch from him and I am happy with the seller. He sent the items as promised etc so I am considering buying the same watch but in titanium. But I have also read the thread in General Discussion about dealers "white lies" (ie claiming to use Swiss movements and saphire crystal when it is not) so before buying as second watch I wanted to be 100% that it is a Swiss made Eta. But again, my experience from the seller is so far good, but since he is not making the watches himself I wanted to ask some experts here on the forum. "Better safe than sorry" as they say........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavor flav Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 100% swiss 100% wrong style bridges for the 127 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Got it in yesterday and it was ??? An ETA. I'm not an expert but a friend of mine is it's an ETA with a Novodiac unbalance. Overall value for money Cheers, Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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