Mickey Padge Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 This is my most prized watch for sure It has been in the most capable hands of repaustria (Oliver). He installed a new dial and hands set for me. I was lucky enough to get the parts straight from DW after he replied to my email. The original dial was not in the best condition, neither were the hands. It has a genuine Rolex crystal installed too, the gen tropic makes a big difference to the watch. Anyway here are some wrist shots for you all to look over, let me know your thoughts The original dial was the first revision, so I was told. I think the Rolex Crown was positioned too high on the dial with that version. Also the chronograph second hand was black, whereas this new version is silver with a white tip. I believe this is more accurate? I would be very grateful if Ubi could give me his expert opinion ubiquitous where are you! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RiverwindMDS Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 This is my most prized watch for sure It has been in the most capable hands of repaustria (Oliver). He installed a new dial and hands set for me. I was lucky enough to get the parts straight from DW after he replied to my email. The original dial was not in the best condition, neither were the hands. It has a genuine Rolex crystal installed too, the gen tropic makes a big difference to the watch. Anyway here are some wrist shots for you all to look over, let me know your thoughts The original dial was the first revision, so I was told. I think the Rolex Crown was positioned too high on the dial with that version. Also the chronograph second hand was black, whereas this new version is silver with a white tip. I believe this is more accurate? I would be very grateful if Ubi could give me his expert opinion ubiquitous where are you! Cheers! The hands set is accurate enough. How much did you pay for the dial and hands set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Ohhh!!SUPER!I realy need one just like that!One super watch for a superb member!Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 The hands set is accurate enough. How much did you pay for the dial and hands set? I got the dial and hands direct from DW for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 MP- Your 6263 looks GREAT! The hands set is correct- Black sub hands with silver center secs. The dial looks quite good- Nice position of the coronet! All in all, a great example of a vintage Cosmo... What's ticking away inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 MP- Your 6263 looks GREAT! The hands set is correct- Black sub hands with silver center secs. The dial looks quite good- Nice position of the coronet! All in all, a great example of a vintage Cosmo... What's ticking away inside? Thanks for posting Ubi, I am grateful for your insight and opinion The watch has the mystery movement, I have found out very little about it through searching the forums. Oliver told me not to mess with the chronos, or wind the watch fully, as it stresses the movement out. Any other tips you could give would fall on welcome ears/eyes in particular to the movement inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Ahhhh... I myself have not had much luck with the mystery movement. On my beloved 6263, I went through 3 - 4 movements, each of them with faults before swapping to the Swiss V23 to finally solve my troubles. On the flip side, I also had a gorgeous PN 6263 with a perfectly running/winding fully ziggied movement that I ended up selling to kruzer00. To this day, it's still running flawlessly... So, sometimes it's just luck of the draw. I would agree with Oli- Don't use the stopwatch too much, and I would also suggest the swap out to a genuine 24-703 Triplock crown and 7030 tube. The crowns that these watches come with aren't always the best- They tend to fail at the spring, and sometimes break free (hence resulting in what might feel like slipping when winding). Aside from that, you'll also benefit from having the Triplock in the numerous threading/unthreading when winding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Aside from that, you'll also benefit from having the Triplock in the numerous threading/unthreading when winding. Thanks for the info, could you please explain that last sentence? I don't quite follow, sorry. The actual crown on my 6263 feels very solid, the winding is firm and there is pressure feeding back when winding. It feels very well sprung and there is no slipping noticable........ . . . yet, fingers crossed If the fault you describe were to occur, would replacing the crown and tube at that point be plausible? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 I meant from the wear and tear of having to frequently unscrew the crown from the tube to wind the watch. Daily winding can cause those threads to wear down quickly... If your current crown isn't giving you trouble, then you can certainly leave as-is. But, I must say... Having the gen crown and tube is a huge imporvement, both in aesthetics and feel. Definitely a good, functional upgrade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 OK I understand what you mean now Are the parts expensive? I can't seem to find them for sale anywhere................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 This is my most prized watch for sure Also the chronograph second hand was black, whereas this new version is silver with a white tip. I believe this is more accurate? Beautiful watch, and the hand looks correct. All of my Rolex books show the watch with a silver hand with white tip. I agree with Ubi about the crown and crown tube. The gen parts are more defined and have a smoother and more solid feel when used. The threads inside the crown and on the case tube are also much stronger and should last alot longer than the rep parts. You should be able to pick up a good Triplock crown for $20-$30 and a new Swiss-made aftermarket case tube pack for about the same on the 'bay. Most watch parts houses (Ofrei, Cas-Ker, Jules Borel, etc.) also sell the case tubes (but not the crowns), if you want another option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Thanks for the input. I can't seem to find the crown at a good price. Look at this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Rolex-Daytona-...VQQcmdZViewItem $140 with delivery! If you know a good source I would appreciate it. I could get the parts, so I am ready in the future if need be. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Both silver and black long seconds hands were used on OEM. It was more common though to have silver with black dial, and black with silver dial (for obvious reasons). Rolex used parts randomly, it all depended upon what was in the parts cache at the time of construction. As mentioned before, be careful with that mystery movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Both silver and black long seconds hands were used on OEM. It was more common though to have silver with black dial, and black with silver dial (for obvious reasons). Rolex used parts randomly, it all depended upon what was in the parts cache at the time of construction. As mentioned before, be careful with that mystery movement. Thanks for the info I plan to treat the watch with great care, I will only wear it rarely. It is most definitely NOT my daily beater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Thanks for the input. I can't seem to find the crown at a good price. Look at this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Rolex-Daytona-...VQQcmdZViewItem $140 with delivery! I have not purchased any new crowns (only used), but that seems overpriced to me. As a gauge, last year I bought 10 Triplock crowns from a single seller on the 'bay for $120. Condition good to mint. It turned out that I received a mixture of different versions of the Triplocks (the location of the three dots below the coronet varies). I did a bit of crown research just before I replaced the crowns on my rep Daytona 1165xx's and found that the dots on the Triplock crowns used on most of the current Daytona 1165xx series are a bit further away from the coronet than they are on the Triplock crowns used on modern Subs. It is hard to explain, but if you look at the crown side of the Daytona 116509 on the Rolex website or at a local Rolex store, you will see what I am talking about. Anyway, 3 of the crowns I got turned out to be this type so that is what I used on the Daytonas. I have not checked recently, but there are usually alot of Triplock crowns, both new and used, for sale on the 'bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I do have to say Ubi's 6263 is fabulous. The mystery movement is keeping COSC time. And yes, Ubi it did see face time on the beach this week and got a very nice comment from one of those wearers of the WG daytonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I do have to say Ubi's 6263 is fabulous. The mystery movement is keeping COSC time. And yes, Ubi it did see face time on the beach this week and got a very nice comment from one of those wearers of the WG daytonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Ubi- Needless to say, I am back. I will bug you tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 One of my mystery movements is dead. Well, not really dead, just messed up in the keyless works (as usual). It needs repair. I'll never repair it since I got a few V72 versions sitting around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papo007 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 hi guy, i am in the hunt for a rolex cosmograph (vintage model #6263) replica i was watching andrews, joshua and paul webs , and found some difference between the models like the stop and reset buttons, and the position of the subdials (or the size i am not sure), which one is the best please help if you can!!! thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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