Victoria Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Guys, I did hit the search button before posting this, which yielded so-so results. So I need your input. Dad wants the Omega 007 Seamaster Pro. Best copy out there, if you can point it out. The research said that the Asian movement is almost as good as the Swiss one, but I'm not convinced until I hear it from you guys. Which of these are the most authentic, please? - http://www.ttwristwatch.com/index.php?main...;products_id=27 ($238, Swiss ETA) - http://www.ttwristwatch.com/index.php?main...products_id=169 ($108, 40mm, darker blue?) - http://www.perfectclones88.com/omse10003-s...8242-p-891.html ($238, Swiss ETA, Josh's comparison pics for once I don't think look good; makes the rep look a bit blah) - http://www.silix-prime.com/product.asp?id=1320 (Jay...but dead cheap $150, 2824 ETA, 40mm) ...or any others. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Which of these are the most authentic, please? - http://www.ttwristwatch.com/index.php?main...;products_id=27 ($238, Swiss ETA) No one with some info? I am guessing since Andrew has "some AR coating" that this is the best of the lot, but I am also thinking of price, as well as authenticity. Any advice would be much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 No one with some info? I am guessing since Andrew has "some AR coating" that this is the best of the lot, but I am also thinking of price, as well as authenticity. Any advice would be much appreciated! The gen 2531.80 SMP does not have AR coating. The 2554.50 has single sided (inside surface) AR coating, the Planet Ocean has double-sided AR coating (and some folks complain that the outer layer can rub away, spoiling the appearance) but the 2531.80 SMP doesn't have it. The 2531.80 was the watch Pierce Brosnan wore from Tomorrow Never Dies onwards. In GoldenEye, he wore the 2541.80, which has a quartz rather than an automatic movement. The two watches are virtually identical, but, the 2541.80 has a larger luminous marker at 3, and the date window is slightly further than the crown. Also, I don't think the 2541.80 has the word 'chronometer' on the dial, but I'm not 100% sure on that. All that said, I don't think there are any dealers who stock the quartz version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 PS, that should be 2254.40 with the single sided AR coating... Typo :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 On the Seamasters with single AR coatings, are they like the Davidsen pams where it reduces reflections, and you get a purple tint on the inside still, or are they the ones that aren't visible as such, but do reduce reflections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 On the Seamasters with single AR coatings, are they like the Davidsen pams where it reduces reflections, and you get a purple tint on the inside still, or are they the ones that aren't visible as such, but do reduce reflections? I haven't actually compared the two to be able to really answer that question, but I'll do my best... When I looked at a gen 2254.50, I didn't really notice any tint or reflections, but, I only looked at it for a few minutes in an AD... When I gave the Panerai I bought for my father in law a 'test drive', I was very aware of the purple tint on the lens, and of reflections... Of course, what with people being able to get their crystal's ARd now, it's really up to their own personal aesthetic. I like my Planet Ocean, but I'm not prepared to spend the $$s on upgrading and modding the parts so it could pass as gen to another watch enthusiast. Out of the box, it already passes as gen to the 'viewing public', and, as all the printing on the dial is correct, that's good enough for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 The gen 2531.80 SMP does not have AR coating. The 2554.50 has single sided (inside surface) AR coating, the Planet Ocean has double-sided AR coating (and some folks complain that the outer layer can rub away, spoiling the appearance) but the 2531.80 SMP doesn't have it. The 2531.80 was the watch Pierce Brosnan wore from Tomorrow Never Dies onwards. In GoldenEye, he wore the 2541.80, which has a quartz rather than an automatic movement. The two watches are virtually identical, but, the 2541.80 has a larger luminous marker at 3, and the date window is slightly further than the crown. Also, I don't think the 2541.80 has the word 'chronometer' on the dial, but I'm not 100% sure on that. All that said, I don't think there are any dealers who stock the quartz version... Thanks for this comprehensive reply, TeeJay! This is my newbiehood talking, but he is only interested in the new Omega with the "007" in recess (not the 007 swirl one, by the way), in the dial, as I pictured in each of the examples. I had assumed this was a limited marking for tied with the new Bond in Casino Royale, and not a continuing version that Brosnan had worn. Was I wrong? Still happy to receive any more info from you guys, before pulling the trigger to buy this watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Thanks for this comprehensive reply, TeeJay! This is my newbiehood talking, but he is only interested in the new Omega with the "007" in recess (not the 007 swirl one, by the way), in the dial, as I pictured in each of the examples. I had assumed this was a limited marking for tied with the new Bond in Casino Royale, and not a continuing version that Brosnan had worn. Was I wrong? Still happy to receive any more info from you guys, before pulling the trigger to buy this watch. No problem at all. I think I know the model you mean. Rather than the wavy pattern on the dial, it has '007' repeated across the dial. Is that the one you're thinking of? If that's the case, the dealer I mentioned in PM sells that watch for the price I paid for my 'standard' 2531.80 It was a commemorative watch, but simply for 'Bond', and during the era when he was portrayed by Pierce Brosnan. The Limited Edition watch Omega released to tie-in with Casino Royale, is the Limited Edition 45mm Planet Ocean, which has the number 007 in pumpkin paint on the base of the second hand, and a different case back, which has 'Casino Royale in the center, rather than the Omega 'seamonster'. The watch Daniel Craig wore from the 'casino' scenes onwards, was the 2220.50, the updated version of the 2531.80, which featured a Co-Axial movement (I'm not sure precicely what that means) and a few minor cosmetic alterations to the luminous markers and printing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Unfortunately, you're a few years to late. The first batch of the 007 models were unbelievable. I think the models that josh/andrew/paul carry are identical. I think Silix may be a little different. Here's the 'Original' to compare to: good luck with the quest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Unfortunately, you're a few years to late. The first batch of the 007 models were unbelievable. I think the models that josh/andrew/paul carry are identical. I think Silix may be a little different. Here's the 'Original' to compare to: good luck with the quest. That's the very one, TeeJay. Thanks Marrickvilleboy! We've decided that the slightly larger 42.5mm Andrew version with Swiss ETA, and upgraded features (slight AR, as I mentioned), will be the one bought. I owe Andrew my custom after he came through with me, big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 That's the very one, TeeJay. Thanks Marrickvilleboy! We've decided that the slightly larger 42.5mm Andrew version with Swiss ETA, and upgraded features (slight AR, as I mentioned), will be the one bought. I owe Andrew my custom after he came through with me, big time. Well, it's your money, but, as mentioned, those dealers all use the same supplier. You'd be getting the same one from any of them (including the dealer I mentioned, who would get it at about a 10th of the price) Also, as mentioned, the gen watch does not have AR coating... Best of luck with your purchase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Well, it's your money, but, as mentioned, those dealers all use the same supplier. You'd be getting the same one from any of them (including the dealer I mentioned, who would get it at about a 10th of the price) Also, as mentioned, the gen watch does not have AR coating... Best of luck with your purchase We still haven't bought it, and all suggestions are STILL being considered though I am partial to Andrew, as stated. But if that is the case, that all of our rep dealers get it fromt he same source, why is it that there is such disparity in the photos and descriptions of watches, not to mention when you actually get two identical watches -- same movement, etc. -- from two dealers, which are COMPLETELY different? It already happened. If you look at all the examples of this 007 watch, the colour of the bezel is such deeper with Andrew's shots, but it's more than that, it's deployant buckle etc. To me, this suggests that it's not all the same supplier, but hey, what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 We still haven't bought it, and all suggestions are STILL being considered though I am partial to Andrew, as stated. But if that is the case, that all of our rep dealers get it fromt he same source, why is it that there is such disparity in the photos and descriptions of watches, not to mention when you actually get two identical watches -- same movement, etc. -- from two dealers, which are COMPLETELY different? It already happened. If you look at all the examples of this 007 watch, the colour of the bezel is such deeper with Andrew's shots, but it's more than that, it's deployant buckle etc. To me, this suggests that it's not all the same supplier, but hey, what do I know. I admit, not all dealers use the same sources, but, Andrew, Angus, Joshua and King do... That's why they're known as the Cartel... I'm fairly sure (although obviously not 100%) that my SMP is from the same factory as Silix uses. Color is something that could appear to vary from photo to photo, purely by the lighting conditions. For example, if you look at the Omega rubber straps on Ofrei.com, the rubber Seamaster strap appears black. In comparison, the Planet Ocean strap looks a light charcoal grey. Personally, I am of the opinon that all the Omega straps are actually charcoal grey, but the eye simply catagorizes it as 'black'... For details like movements, even bezel inserts, it could be the difference between this run of watches, and that run of watches... If you look on their sites, there are dealers offering the 2531.80 SMP as having the luminous 3 marker, but, several people have reported receiving a watch which is sans 3 marker... (the 2220.50 I have on order will be sans 3 marker, but, I knew that before I ordered it) so sometimes, the difference in photo and product, can be down to a different batch of watches... Lots of different factors to take into account when dealing with 'how the watch looks'... :smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Welcome to replicaworld - where different factories produce dials, bezels, cases. Runs from the same factory differ from one to the next. Just crank the stuff out as fast as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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