alanytical Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 The original thorough review of this watch showed the dial enlarged and the flaws dissected. It showed flaws in the curved "S" in Superocean, distances away of the numbers were different, and the date box was too big. So I found a picture of a Gen and was comparing it to the Rep, and it looks like that isn't necessarily the case. Other than the pearl and date font, the dial looks very accurate to me. All the talk about it being the best rep ever, just may be the case after all. I've got one on order and can't wait to start wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Good choice on the SFSO! The best replica there is at the moment! Yes, there has been different dials on the genuine Steelfish, with and without curved "s" and with "big date box". I think Pugwash made a post about this some weeks ago. The conclusion was that the rep dial is very very close to an original dial. Date font is a tiny bit off, but nice and "square" as a proper ETA -font. To me, the pearl is the only small "tell" on this one..together with the rather stiff bezel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 The original thorough review of this watch showed the dial enlarged and the flaws dissected. It showed flaws in the curved "S" in Superocean, distances away of the numbers were different, and the date box was too big. So I found a picture of a Gen and was comparing it to the Rep, and it looks like that isn't necessarily the case. Other than the pearl and date font, the dial looks very accurate to me. All the talk about it being the best rep ever, just may be the case after all. I've got one on order and can't wait to start wearing it. You're not far from the truth Alan, the SFSO rep was copied from the early production gen SFSO X-Plus, that came with a slightly diferent dial compared to the latest gen SFSO. The rep is EXTREMELY close to that particular early gen batch, however thare are still small 'faults' and tells just like with any other rep...they don't bug me much, though. cheers, babola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 You're not far from the truth Alan, the SFSO rep was copied from the early production gen SFSO X-Plus, that came with a slightly diferent dial compared to the latest gen SFSO. The rep is EXTREMELY close to that particular early gen batch, however thare are still small 'faults' and tells just like with any other rep...they don't bug me much, though. cheers, babola whatever small "faults and tells" can you name besides the two that have already been mentioned? Being: the pearl, and the non-perfect date-font. (lack of AR on Asian model) And on the stainless steel bracelet version: the rounded bracelet screws.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) whatever small "faults and tells" can you name besides the two that have already been mentioned? Being: the pearl, and the non-perfect date-font. (lack of AR on Asian model) And on the stainless steel bracelet version: the rounded bracelet screws.. I can talk about the blue dial rep version SFSO...so read on: - rounded dial numerals (12, 6, 9 o'clock), they're flat on a gen - blue dial color is slightly lighter than current blue gen SFSO which comes with deep electric blue dial - white dial txt is crisp white on a gen, slightly subdued on a rep - lume missing on quarter markers on chapter ring - 15, 30, 45 min bezel markers are wider on a gen - small Breitling logo engraved on a bezel side is placed closer to the 12 o'clock marker on a gen, it's centred between 11 and 12 o'clock on a rep - gen bezel is more 'flat top' and the edge forms sharp corner between the top and the edge, rep one is more 'rounded'. (This is not visible from the photos, you have to realy hold them both in your hand to notice the diference) - bezel retaining screws are slightly recessed on the rep - case lug ends are rounded on a gen, sharp on the rep - bracelet solid end links are somewhat protruding from the top of the lugs on a rep, they're just ever so slightly recessed on a gen - bracelet clasp is inferior to the gen one, fit and finish is simply not there yet ...plus the things you mention... I'm sure there will be more 'faults' to pinpoint by others, but the fact remains - it's the BEST rep I ever owned ! cheers, babola Edited September 4, 2007 by babola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminvanbuuren Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 I can talk about the blue dial rep version SFSO...so read on: - rounded dial numerals (12, 6, 9 o'clock), they're flat on a gen - blue dial color is slightly lighter than current blue gen SFSO which comes with deep electric blue dial - white dial txt is crisp white on a gen, slightly subdued on a rep - lume missing on quarter markers on chapter ring - 15, 30, 45 min bezel markers are wider on a gen - small Breitling logo engraved on a bezel side is placed closer to the 12 o'clock marker on a gen, it's centred between 11 and 12 o'clock on a rep - gen bezel is more 'flat top' and the edge forms sharp corner between the top and the edge, rep one is more 'rounded'. (This is not visible from the photos, you have to realy hold them both in your hand to notice the diference) - bezel retaining screws are slightly recessed on the rep - case lug ends are rounded on a gen, sharp on the rep - bracelet solid end links are somewhat protruding from the top of the lugs on a rep, they're just ever so slightly recessed on a gen - bracelet clasp is inferior to the gen one, fit and finish is simply not there yet ...plus the things you mention... I'm sure there will be more 'faults' to pinpoint by others, but the fact remains - it's the BEST rep I ever owned ! cheers, babola hmm i think this is pics.. i've seen the gen in real life.. infact i've hold it.. the numbering is not rounded or flat (it looks flat in the gen pics because of the lighting) its very similar really.. and with the dial colour also.. in some lighting the gen looks lighter in some lighting the rep does.. i've got it side by side and believe me they're very close colour.. with the engravings of the b.. it was between 11 and 12 too on the gen that i saw.. as for the other things i don't really pay attention so yeh maybe theyre flaws.. but boy who could really pick out "flat top" bezel?.. but really you get the pearl relumed and also the dial relumed.. change to a rubber strap (yes the bracelet on the rep STINKS).. i doubt anyone could tell unless its us (we can also tell from well the spacing of the 15 to the window box, on the rep it nearly touch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.dupere Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 hmm i think this is pics.. i've seen the gen in real life.. infact i've hold it.. the numbering is not rounded or flat (it looks flat in the gen pics because of the lighting) its very similar really.. and with the dial colour also.. in some lighting the gen looks lighter in some lighting the rep does.. i've got it side by side and believe me they're very close colour.. with the engravings of the b.. it was between 11 and 12 too on the gen that i saw.. as for the other things i don't really pay attention so yeh maybe theyre flaws.. but boy who could really pick out "flat top" bezel?.. but really you get the pearl relumed and also the dial relumed.. change to a rubber strap (yes the bracelet on the rep STINKS).. i doubt anyone could tell unless its us (we can also tell from well the spacing of the 15 to the window box, on the rep it nearly touch) Im gonna get my blue sosf tommorrow. My friend has a gen seawolf avenger, I'll hand it to him, just to know if hes gonna call it fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.dupere Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Im gonna get my blue sosf tommorrow. My friend has a gen seawolf avenger, I'll hand it to him, just to know if hes gonna call it fake. OMG I got my first rep, a blue SOSF. I opened the package right on the street, like a child unwrapping a present. It was very well wrapped, and my first sight of a quality rep was: Oh my god, what's going on? It is amazing! The watch is so beautiful, its a perfect size and works great. Im so impressed. I hope my next rep are going to look as real as this one. AR coating is perfect. Got two compliments on it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanytical Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Congrats s.dupere. You're very lucky. Enjoy it. So far I've been very unlucky. 1st Breitling Chronomat Evolution came with 3 glaring cosmetic flaws, tried again 2nd one was DOA 7750 movement half frozen. I'm still waiting on the SOSF that I ordered a while back from another collector. Geez. I hope my luck changes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rafib Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 You're not far from the truth Alan, the SFSO rep was copied from the early production gen SFSO X-Plus, that came with a slightly diferent dial compared to the latest gen SFSO. The rep is EXTREMELY close to that particular early gen batch, however thare are still small 'faults' and tells just like with any other rep...they don't bug me much, though. cheers, babola For those members who care for the curved vs. straight S in the superocean steelfish, if you check the 2007 catalog in pic # 889 the S line is straight (quite similar to the rep) while in pic 892 it is curved, so probably both versions exist in the gen, maybe as mentioned here the straight S is in an earlier version, although it is still presented in the 2007 catalog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourbillon Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hello Gentlemen. Because of the fine information available herein, I have searched out the perfect Rep. I feel very indebted to all, as I think I have finally found it -- the Breitling Steelfish. In addition, because of the talent that is clearly displayed on these pages, I have been inspired to brush up on my photography. I used to pick up the camera back in the days of darkness, developer, and fixer. Again, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourbillon Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 1 more pic if you please. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) hmm i think this is pics.. i've seen the gen in real life.. infact i've hold it.. the numbering is not rounded or flat (it looks flat in the gen pics because of the lighting) its very similar really.. and with the dial colour also.. in some lighting the gen looks lighter in some lighting the rep does.. i've got it side by side and believe me they're very close colour.. with the engravings of the b.. it was between 11 and 12 too on the gen that i saw.. as for the other things i don't really pay attention so yeh maybe theyre flaws.. but boy who could really pick out "flat top" bezel?.. but really you get the pearl relumed and also the dial relumed.. change to a rubber strap (yes the bracelet on the rep STINKS).. i doubt anyone could tell unless its us (we can also tell from well the spacing of the 15 to the window box, on the rep it nearly touch) agree with arminvanbuuren. I'd count the things that babola lists as discrepencies and not so much as "flaws". The things that are listed are so small they may in fact vary from watch to watch, rep or gen. I for a fact have compared my watch to a genuine in my hand. Although my eye isn't as keen as many on this forum, the numbers, fonts and finishing of the writing on this watch are dead-on. I don't recall the bezel numbering though.... My numbers on my rep are flat as the gen, and my white dial tends to change colors in certain lighting conditions.. for example.. usually it's an offish white.. but in direct sunlight its a brilliant pure white p.s. Also on the brown leather strap rep.. the genuine strap is darker and more glossed than the rep brown strap. The reps leather is much more "matte" finished. here's my beauty: Edited September 12, 2007 by plaifender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 p.s. Also on the brown leather strap rep.. the genuine strap is darker and more glossed than the rep brown strap. The reps leather is much more "matte" finished. When you're down to picking differences in the leather strap, you know you've got a good rep. I don't care about the strap's accuracy as it's one of those things that even if you had a gen you'd not be sure it's a tell as people change straps (BOB for Breitling, for instance) all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Pug.. true. true. Another thing.. I just LOVE the transparency of the glass.. the majority of the time it looks as if you could touch the actual dial. -ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Pug.. true. true. Another thing.. I just LOVE the transparency of the glass.. the majority of the time it looks as if you could touch the actual dial. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Best ever rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) Still stand by everything I said re blue SFSO...I was asked and I obliged. And for those off-the hip shooters out there, I don't come to conclusions like the one above lightly, it's usually a lot of research and work done on my side to support them. As always I'm open for discussion and debate Pug, you're spot on mate...again. I sometimes wish people read past posts and use search function more often babola Edited September 13, 2007 by babola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Pug, you're spot on mate...again. I sometimes wish people read past posts and use search function more often We can but hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 I agree with Pug and Babola. This is the best rep ever. Bottom line, though, is that it's a great watch for the money, full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminvanbuuren Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 lol don't care really its a good watch.. flaws or not.. i've been to 2 diff AD's (one in melb and another in adelaide).. both wouldn't even call me out.. infact the one in adelaide put the gen rubber on it.. where as the one in melb (crown casino.. the whole building is branded stuff, kind of like the rodeo drive of australia ) gave me a breitling chronolog after looking at my steelfish.. so yeh the flaws that babola stated must be very very small that you can't really pick with a naked eye.. but im not complaining..!! the only problem with my sfso right now is that the inside crystal is dirty (after getting my movement serviced) and the dial is scratched too.. so i'm kind of in the hunt for a new gen dial.. (in addition my font is correct to the gen LOL.. i got the old batch of the rep ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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