IWC Portuguese issue

[magagne]

Hi there,

I think this is my first post on this forum, and I come from RWI, place where a lot of people from here are there too. I'm here and read since a month or two, but this is my first post/intervention.

I ask to all of you who own a portuguese. I LOVE portuguese and think to purchase one. My question is, who have NO problem with the mvt at all. I know the 7750 sec @6 is a bad design mvt and the extra gear tears on the power, but that can be fix by frozen the second dial and removing all extra gears. So who have a portuguese for at least a period of one year without NO PROBLEM at all with a functional sec @6. If you had problem, what kind of problem. Is it a good move to buy this watch and just wait if the watch have a serious problem, and after that send it to a watchmaker to remove extra gear and freeze the sec @6 permanently? This watch cost ~$280, not cheap, is it really worth the money? Somebody hear plan that a Venus/Lemania mvt can/will replace a 7750 sec@6 mvt ? There's a moon-phase portuguese with a Lemania, why not use a Lemania for the other model too? Yes, it's a manual mvt instead of a automatic, but who cares, solid case back, you never kno, and if the mvt is a lot more reliable, the first job of a watch is to give time, and precisely. What's your input on this?

V

Edited September 6, 2007 by magagne

[magagne]

Wow! that means everybody who have a porto, have a problem?

V

[Victoria]

Wow! that means everybody who have a porto, have a problem?

V

Hey Magagne. I was going to welcome you last night to the forum, having of course seen you on RWI many times, but forgot.

And yes, it would seem just about all the Porto owners have a problem with the seconds@6, hence no replies. I myself was considering buying this watch, but was dissuaded when I asked about it, quite recently.

Sucks, huh?

[m4rcus]

Wow! that means everybody who have a porto, have a problem?

V

I have one that's about a year old. I wear it all the time and so far haven't had any problems. I bought it used on this forum last Nov (I think) for $180, so if it dies I'm not out much.

[Pugwash]

Somebody hear plan that a Venus/Lemania mvt can/will replace a 7750 sec@6 mvt ? There's a moon-phase portuguese with a Lemania, why not use a Lemania for the other model too? Yes, it's a manual mvt instead of a automatic, but who cares, solid case back, you never kno, and if the mvt is a lot more reliable, the first job of a watch is to give time, and precisely. What's your input on this?

Lemania ... "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[magagne]

Lemania ... "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Sorry about my lapse, Lemania is the real thing of course, I spam wrong infos I should be more specific; Seagull ST-19/Venus.

V

[Pugwash]

I should be more specific; Seagull ST-19/Venus.

You mean like the one in the Vintage Daytona reps? Adding the gears to make it a seconds-at-six movement would introduce exactly the same problems as on the 7750.

The problem isn't with the movement, it's with the transfer gears.

[FxrAndy]

Mine is good after a year and sits in a winder so running all the time.

[magagne]

You mean like the one in the Vintage Daytona reps? Adding the gears to make it a seconds-at-six movement would introduce exactly the same problems as on the 7750.

The problem isn't with the movement, it's with the transfer gears.

Agree with you Pug. The transfer gear tears a lot. I just base my "hypothesis" on the rep porto version with the moon phase and date complication, there's some extra gears there too, but not for a second hands, I agree, so not too much "drag" there. I assume a manual mvt is stronger, and even with extra gear for sec@6 it will be more reliable than the mod 7750 sec@6. All this is base on manual mvt is stronger than a auto mvt. But maybe I'm wrong.

BTW, I just red recently (The Zigmeister review) AFTER my initial post here, a version of Asian 7750 with sec@3, and the transfer gears (transfer sec@9 to sec@3) are much better design than the current 7750 sec@6 mvt version. So maybe we will see a better version of the 7750 sec@6 eventually, I hope so.

V