Quarks Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 (edited) Just received my much awaited 187 which was sent for service and a relume job a while ago. This is the 2nd 187 I got from Ken (Yes I am nuts). Anyways when I first got it, I was a bit disappointed with the workmanship. The first problem lies with the font. The 'automatic chrono' wording on the 6 o'clock subdial looks crappy because the 'c' of the 'chrono' word was not printed properly and looked like half a 'c' rather than a full curved 'c'. Secondly, the skeleton hands on the watch were dirty. There were fingerprints on it and it was sooo visible. I was about to send my first 187 to Rob but then decided to send this one in first. I requested the hands to be cleaned or polished, basically whatever it takes to remove those fugly looking stuff on the hands. And with regards to the font, I wasn't sure if Rob could do anything about the font so I did not put the request in. Third, playing with the chronos, the movement of the chrono hand looks VERY inconsistent. Something had to be done - servicing. With these problems, I asked Rob for help to get the watch serviced as well as giving it a relume job - only on the markers. It has been a few weeks and today, I finally got the watch back. Much to my surprise, the 'C' font was corrected! Did Rob rectify it for me? I have no idea, he must have! Thanks Rob, it looks amazing... absolutely perfect. And the relume. I am amazed. Totally dumbfounded. It looks exactly like the gen. Well, words does not do justice. So I'll let the comparison pics do the talking.... Guess which one is gen and which is a rep..... ( I apologise for the poor comparison of pics) Once you have finally differentiate which is the rep (date function is a dead-giveaway if you haven't noticed), you can see that on the rep, the illume has a 3D effect compared to when I first got from Ken which was basically a sticker-like illume. The 3D effect of the illume is exactly the same for the gen, maybe just 1mm thinner in width. Nevertheless, I am very very happy with what Rob has done. Plus, the 'C' on the 'Chrono' wording is rectified! Much kudos to you Rob! Edited May 23, 2006 by Quarks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Rep is on the righ!! Nice work Rob, now I will definitely have to do mine. It could be the C had a bit of dirt covering it rather than Rob touching it up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 @quarks...you got a winner...it is a beauty...ant with the superlume.... ... could you post a pic...where the superlume is visible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exper Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Must have been a heart ache having it away for so long ! but I guess atleats its back now and even better to enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 OMG I am Sooooo jealous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerailord Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 fantastic!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 @dadog13: Here are the pics of the illume. @V: Veni, get one already! REP (left) vs GEN (right) Rep (large pic) Damn Rob's super illume outshines the tritium! SHOCKING! I placed the gen under the light longer than the rep and still got trashed by the rep's super illume.... disappointing. *slams head on keyboard* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 well this are thee photos we've been looking for! nice ...and BTW i am jealous too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Quarks- You are my hero. Out of your mind but still my hero. By the way, who was nice enough to lend you their gen? Ziggy- Unbelievable job. After I beg you for a slot in you're busy schedule mine will be on its way shortly thereafter. It is currently on loan but as soon as I get it back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dluddy Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Looks awesome. Nice job Ziggy Who is selling the 187's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 A 7753 should fit no problem, right? It might be worth picking up a 7753 as a future upgrade when the asian one explodes. Btw, NICE WATCH!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 A 7753 should fit no problem, right? Wrong.. someone said that the date position is not the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Wrong.. someone said that the date position is not the same Hmmm. That might have been a worth while project . . . must investigate further . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Hmmm. That might have been a worth while project . . . must investigate further . . . Wont work, the date wheels on a 7750 (Asian is a 7750 modified to be a 7753...) is smaller than the datewheel on a 7753. So you can't replace the asian with a ETA 7753... @quarks Glad you like the results, on the "c" lettering, I can't remember doing anything to it, so maybe dirt was on it and I removed it when I cleaned the dial??? Funny on the lume comparison, every once in a while I get comments back that the lume doesnt' perform very good and they think it's no good... The comment is that the lume is not visible as bright green glowing -in some cases people expect it to glow bright green in direct sunlight.......sigh... The Super lume is designed to work in the dark, if you can see the watch - you have no need of lume to tell the time...however, this Super Lume works amazing in the dark. I have all the watches lined up each week on a dresser in my room, waiting to get shipped home. If I get up at night to use the bathroom, I can see the glow of the watches as they sit there in the darkness...it's so amazing...if you understand the limitations and reasons for the Super Lume, I think it performs very well... Thanks for the kind words, appreciated. This was one of the longest turn times, only due to the fact I was gone for 10 days on business... and even then, total time was about 4 weeks, not bad from Australia to Canada and return... and considering the movement type and work done... RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerailord Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 zigg are you the best!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leitztozeiss Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Ok. Seems unlikely we'll see a swiss movement version of the 187, other than gen. I think I'll order anyway . . . time to sell some watches . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 @quarks Glad you like the results, on the "c" lettering, I can't remember doing anything to it, so maybe dirt was on it and I removed it when I cleaned the dial??? Funny on the lume comparison, every once in a while I get comments back that the lume doesnt' perform very good and they think it's no good... The comment is that the lume is not visible as bright green glowing -in some cases people expect it to glow bright green in direct sunlight.......sigh... The Super lume is designed to work in the dark, if you can see the watch - you have no need of lume to tell the time...however, this Super Lume works amazing in the dark. I have all the watches lined up each week on a dresser in my room, waiting to get shipped home. If I get up at night to use the bathroom, I can see the glow of the watches as they sit there in the darkness...it's so amazing...if you understand the limitations and reasons for the Super Lume, I think it performs very well... Thanks for the kind words, appreciated. This was one of the longest turn times, only due to the fact I was gone for 10 days on business... and even then, total time was about 4 weeks, not bad from Australia to Canada and return... and considering the movement type and work done... RG Rob, you have done a wonderful, wonderful job. I can gaze at this watch for hours and hours.... (yes I have no life ) I can't express how close to the gen this super illume is in terms of workmanship. Furthermore, the glare of the super illume outshines the tritium! It is amazing indeed. Thanks once again! Kindly check your email Rob. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Kindly check your email Rob. Cheers. I will when I get home tonight... Thks for the kind words, RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Damn! Amazing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Pitt Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Awesome!!! Great watch Quarks, Great work The Zigmeister (as usual ) Mine will be on it's way in a bit, I can't wait to see her glow like my 127. Thanks for posting picts quarks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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