maxmsu Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I have been wanting the 3717 for a while, after read so many great reviews, finally pulled trigger - alone with a gen croc strap and a set of ETA date/day wheels ordered. Got the watch today... what can I say? very disappointed. THe dial is crap. The hour makers were not good quality at all... I tried on the GEN at a AD and the rep is not even close. The date wheels are in need of getting replaced right away and crystal needs to be double coated... but that is not the biggest problem... just wondering, how many of you guys are happy with the dial?? am I getting the crapy ones now?? See picture, I don't have my Close-up camera right now, but you get the idea... the marker looks like to be a 2 stickers type. mine got one sticker missing... the 12 oclock marker is a glue job done by a 10 years old with school glue. let me know what you guys think... Also got the SFSO, amazing watch... however the lume dots on the dial are shiet... am I asking too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 THe dial is crap. The hour makers were not good quality at all... I tried on the GEN at a AD and the rep is not even close. The date wheels are in need of getting replaced right away and crystal needs to be double coated... but that is not the biggest problem... just wondering, how many of you guys are happy with the dial?? am I getting the crapy ones now?? Hmmm, I guess yours definitely missed the QC. My dial is 100% perfect. I've actually had the gen on my wrist 2 weeks ago and was really surprised by how close the rep is. The only difference were the day/date wheels and the single sided AR. On the gen you don't see glass at all at most angles. I'd suggest you to contact your collector and send it back for a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckh Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I have been wanting the 3717 for a while, after read so many great reviews, finally pulled trigger - alone with a gen croc strap and a set of ETA date/day wheels ordered. Got the watch today... what can I say? very disappointed. THe dial is crap. The hour makers were not good quality at all... I tried on the GEN at a AD and the rep is not even close. The date wheels are in need of getting replaced right away and crystal needs to be double coated... but that is not the biggest problem... just wondering, how many of you guys are happy with the dial?? am I getting the crapy ones now?? See picture, I don't have my Close-up camera right now, but you get the idea... the marker looks like to be a 2 stickers type. mine got one sticker missing... the 12 oclock marker is a glue job done by a 10 years old with school glue. let me know what you guys think... Also got the SFSO, amazing watch... however the lume dots on the dial are shiet... am I asking too much? Oh...I'm sorry to hear that u have got the problem on your 3717. I'm lucky to see 1 time in AD; compare with rep. The main different : 1.) Double AR 2.) Bold font & indice on dial 3.) Mis-alignment of the day-date wheels. However; In my case the dial is quite good; after swap the ETA Day-Date wheel are much better than the stock one. Maybe u should contact your dealer to replace it. It's really a good rep IMHO! best Regards, Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 2.) Bold font & indice on dial I missed that one. Can you explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I see that one of the markers (at 9) is missing on Max's 3717. The gen doesn't have thick markers at 3, 6, 9 & 12 so I'm now wondering if these could be successfully removed and have the four markers relumed to get a smooth finish, like the gen. Has anyone tried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 The gen doesn't have thick markers at 3, 6, 9 & 12 On this gen pic I do see thick markers at 3,6,9 and a triangle @12. It could depend on the angle of photography, but the markers on the rep seems a bit higher embossed than on the gen. Is that what you mean? @maxmsu: in this pic you can also see that the chrono seconds hand is supposed to be curved. So the rep is actually good in that expect. Also the minute hand is supposed to be curved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmilian Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Look at that AR on the gen awsome !! \A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminvanbuuren Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) yeh im getting it like that.. then maybe after that ill send it to ajoesmith for a AO blast.. would be the sexiest mofo in the world!!! that pic is gonna cause more controversies.. the pinnion on that pic from joyful collections have white pinnions.. while the rep has golden pinnions.. and guess wat i went to the AD and they had gold pinnions too.. so everything is confusing! Edited October 23, 2007 by arminvanbuuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 and guess wat i went to the AD and they had gold pinnions too.. so everything is confusing! Are you absolutely positive about that? Because it's not uncommon to gens that they sometimes slightly differ between production runs... This would imply that the brass cannon pinnions on the rep are no flaw after all.. @max: I've had the gen on my wrist about 2 weeks ago. The AR is so good that I actually had to look closer to be sure that they put a glass on the watch The single sides AR on the rep isn't bad at all, but not close to the gen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckh Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 On this gen pic I do see thick markers at 3,6,9 and a triangle @12. It could depend on the angle of photography, but the markers on the rep seems a bit higher embossed than on the gen. Is that what you mean? @maxmsu: in this pic you can also see that the chrono seconds hand is supposed to be curved. So the rep is actually good in that expect. Also the minute hand is supposed to be curved. Woo....Look at that double AR, it made the crystal totally disappear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff g Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Comparing a rep to a gen is like apples and oranges. It stands to reason that the rep is sub par comparing to a gen of almost any watch. Period. However in the case of the 3717, I must say that the earliest models of this watch that were purchased thru EL, were far and away better watches in almost all regards compared to the current batches of the CN 3717's. Eddies first 100 were superb. TW not CN. Like many products available thru the CN dropshippers these day. QC is definitely an issue. That is the reason that so many different reps of the reps are failing the test. I doubt that much can be done about it at this stage of the game. Dealing with someone who personally inspects all the watches he or she sells is a tough deal. I would definitely return it to the 'collector' you purchased it from. IF they will take it back. Returning product to CN is a pain. And there is no guarantee that the second watch will be any better. In the case of my 3717 purchased from EL, the dial, and date wheel were pretty much perfect. Sending the watch to The Zigmeister for lume and movement swap has satisfied my tastes, but no rep will ever be perfect. I must say however that I have seen more than one photo of the gen 3717, with a misaligned day/date wheel. Many of us on this forum have been accused of being a bit anal retentive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brep Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 As someone that has purchased a 3717 from the latter batches, I concur. My watch came with too short of a stem. You couldn't screw down the crown without changing the date. What a pain - my collector took it back and had it repaired - now she works like a charm. Day/Date alignment is actually pretty good. May be getting this one serviced to increase the life expectancy... -B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2222 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I did that one for another member, DW and double AR, after those mods 3717 look much better, but still this is a replica so don't expect quality like 5k watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Can't wait to see it in person Kuba :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmsu Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Hey guys, thank you all for the comments. I sent the picture (same one posted) and the "collector" said he couldn't see/understand what I was referring to... CAN someone here help me to explain "better" to him? I want a replacement dial or a new watch... 1st batch of the 3717 are MUCH better than the current ones... hold your horses if you are in the market... make sure your "collector'' inspect the watch before shipping... QC will always be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2222 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 markers need to be glue to the dial again, even if they look ok, they will not stay there very long ,so You need to do it anyway with this or new dial, i have first EL'S batch belive me same [censored] as others sorry.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Who the hell sold you that joke of a watch? I'd be fuming over the QC - or lack thereof. My 1st 100 EL 3717 is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2222 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 mine was perfect but one day one marker just came off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namjah Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Damn. Qc really slipped on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am really satisfied with my watch. Just got it back with mods - ETA DWs and k2222 double AR... love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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