894tom Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Oh no...I went to wind up my Speedy as I am doing a power reserve test on all my handwind movements and this morning the Speedy would not hold the spring from releasing. In other words, with every turn when I take my finger off the crown, it will spin out until its energy is gone. AHHHH...its practically brand new!! Don't tell me this is a welcome to the world of replicas. What happened and what do I do to fix her? This is a handwind lamania movement, I think I read it is also called a Seagul? According to The Zigmeister, this is a great movement so it must be something just with my movement. Please help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Oh no...I went to wind up my Speedy as I am doing a power reserve test on all my handwind movements and this morning the Speedy would not hold the spring from releasing. In other words, with every turn when I take my finger off the crown, it will spin out until its energy is gone. AHHHH...its practically brand new!! Don't tell me this is a welcome to the world of replicas. What happened and what do I do to fix her? This is a handwind lamania movement, I think I read it is also called a Seagul? According to The Zigmeister, this is a great movement so it must be something just with my movement. Please help. If you've just received it from a reputable dealer, please contact them and you'll likely receive a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Sounds like the click for the main spring is loose or its spring (the ratchet mech that holds the tention in the main spring) if this was a basic movement i might be able to tell you where to look but on the seagull, no idea, sorry, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkerouac Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Depending on how long you've had it, either a dealer replacement or a short visit to a watch repair person should take care of it. Repair might be simpler and faster than a full replacement. If so, you could still work something out with the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted December 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Unfortunately, I have no cofindence in the dealer I bought the Speedy from so I won't be sending or buying anything more from him. Anyone know where the rachet wheel click spring is on one of these movements so I can check that out. I have an exhibition back so I may even be able to see the problem easily. New Question>>>>>> To all owners of the speedy, when you wind your watch, do you feel any type of clicking like you do on a 6497 movement? My Speedy always wound very smoothly with no sign of any clicking. I never thought it had the click spring due to the smooth feel. Just wondering if that was the problem with mine the whole time....it was barely touching the stop mechanism. Any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Mine winds smoothly. It does click, but you feel it with your fingers more than you hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted December 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Mine winds smoothly. It does click, but you feel it with your fingers more than you hear it. I just tried winding it again (guess I thought this was all a bad dream?lol) Anyway, I wound it all the way up not letting go of the crown the whole time. I just screwed the crown down and it held the wind/power at that point. It works fine, but that is not normal, I should be able to take my fingers off the crown and it should hold without spinning out. Something is still very wrong. I can see the crown wheel under everthing turning, but I cant see the click spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweattdogg Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 You have found a temporary solution, but it doesn't help what is wrong. I looked up a pic of the back of your watch, but I cannot see the rachet. I have a ETA PAM and the easiest way to find it will be to watch the gears as you wind the watch. One of the large gears most likely has it attached and it lets the gear spin as you wind it, but when you are done winding it the gear will not go backwards. I'm not sure if yours is the same, but either way it sounds like you should fiind a good watchsmith to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I would get it to a watch smith as the click, click spring and a tiny screw could be wandering about the inside of your watch just looking for something to chew on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 The "click" on the Seagull "Lemania" is difficult to see through the caseback... the chrono bits get in the way. On this photo, the "click" is just above the "E" of the Panerai engraving, under the long chrono arm. Should be easy... well, quite easy... to get to, once the caseback is removed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoesmith Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 If you can see this image the click is just at the 12 oclock position, just were you can see the teeth of a gear. you should see this gear moving when winding the watch Pic borrowed from the master - The Zigmeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 If you can see this image the click is just at the 12 oclock position, just were you can see the teeth of a gear. you should see this gear moving when winding the watch Pic borrowed from the master - The Zigmeister agreed..I need a watchsmith. Thank you for the pic it shows me exactly where to look. This site is the best. Just sad I have to be separated from my watch so soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have a similar problem with a Seagull-powered Daytona 6263. Does anyone know where to buy a new Seagull ST-19? I know this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) To make this more complicated......when I took the watch to the shop today, the watch guy wound the watch and it did not spin backwards. Boy did I look stupid, but I know it cant fix itself. He's gonna look at it. I am leaning towards the fact the click spring thingy may be bearly touching the crown wheel engaging only when the wind is blowing the right direction . Edited December 22, 2007 by 894tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 To make this more complicated......when I took the watch to the shop today, the watch guy wound the watch at it did not do spin backwards. Boy did I look stupid. It definetly did it to me and I know it cant fix itself. He's gonna look at it. I am leaning towards the fact the click spring thingy may be bearly touching the crown wheel engaging only when the wind is blowing the right direction . I can hardly understand what you're saying. I would like to chime in here but you really ought to take the time and patience to write up your responses. If english is your second language, my apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted December 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 I can hardly understand what you're saying. I would like to chime in here but you really ought to take the time and patience to write up your responses. If english is your second language, my apologies. 1st language......mixed with alcohol. What I was saying was that when I took the watch to get repaired the problem did not manifest itself for the watch repair man. In other words Marrickvilleboy, when the repair man wound the watch, it did not release its wind. I told him the problem is one that does not magically fix itself and asked him to look into the problem. Chime away fellow watch enthusiast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted December 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Update: I return home with the Lamania Speedy. The watch repairman said he tried several times to replicate my problem, but could not. He claimed he wound my watch up three times. He only had the watch for 4 days....so maybe he ment he wound it two times. He said he put oil on the clicker and closed her back up. I would say that did not fix my problem or give me any kind of answers to what is wrong with the watch. I will let the watch wind all the way down again and let it sit for several days and see if I can replicate the winding problem again. Anyone know a good watch repairman? My local guy is good for doing minor repair work, but I am losing faith in any kind of big jobs for him. Still looking for an answer as to what is wrong with this movement.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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