gianton Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) I got a good offer for a second hand PAM164 at Edited January 12, 2008 by gianton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lello Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) It looks gen to me. Also the strap it's gen. I wouldn't have any doubts. Just ask a few close up pics, to make sure it doesn't have scratches, but for the rest it seams a good deal at all. Edited January 12, 2008 by lello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks for your reply. How about the price? Is it good for a second hand one? Where can I find the price for the new one? It looks gen to me. Also the strap it's gen. I wouldn't have any doubts. Just ask a few close up pics, to make sure it doesn't have scratches, but for the rest it seams a good deal at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 This is a PAM0164, no PAM104 To me this doesn't look like a rep. The subdial is more sunken than on a rep. The 5 minutes marks are bigger and the 12 is not touching the rehaut. Last week there was a thread about the new rep 164. You might take a look at that to be more confident. But if I were you I would ask for the serial number and see if that's the same number as on the reps. Or you might check the number with the AD. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks for your input. I have requested the serial number and will check it with the AD. This is a PAM0164, no PAM104 To me this doesn't look like a rep. The subdial is more sunken than on a rep. The 5 minutes marks are bigger and the 12 is not touching the rehaut. Last week there was a thread about the new rep 164. You might take a look at that to be more confident. But if I were you I would ask for the serial number and see if that's the same number as on the reps. Or you might check the number with the AD. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 In the hunt for a gen... well I got another offer for a brand new PAM005 at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Genuine for sure. The 164 is a very nice watch. I owned one a couple of yeras ago and always enjoyed wearing it. The strap shown is the standard one it comes with and should be on a deployant too with a spare Rubber strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 What a beautiful watch... Which collector has the best rep of the Pam 164? Thanks, -MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lello Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Personally I like more the 164. I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capice Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 both beauties G, I would go for the 005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I prefer the 164 from an aesthetic perspective but I couldn't live without the date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Both gen.. I personally am more fond of the historic manual wind than the contemporary automatics. They are quite different for you to be easy to choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks for your inputs guys! Now would you buy a gen from online ADs? The reason I want to buy these models online is that the AD in Greece don't have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks for your inputs guys! Now would you buy a gen from online ADs? The reason I want to buy these models online is that the AD in Greece don't have them. Yes I would.. Btw... I got into the Greek AD this Christmas with my 112 and the Metta strap and the salesman was drooling over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Well I got an offer for a PAM111i at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Some more photos showing the authenticity of it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yeap.. genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thanks V for your reply! Is the price good enough to proceed with the deal? List price is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thanks V for your reply! Is the price good enough to proceed with the deal? List price is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianton Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Well he asks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 The 111i looks gen to me: - right shape of 2, 3 and 6 - yellowish font - L Swiss Made L not too close to the 6 - no recessed cannon pinion - fat crown - flush CG - the extra 'hole' near the incablock shock protector I love the strap! Unfortunately my experience with a web AD was not a good one. The watch I've bought from them stopped working within 2 months. When I tried to contact them for repair they didn't answer my mails and didn't pick up the phone. Lucky for me I could send it to the brand manufacturer and they repaired it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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