Tom Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I've just bought this Franck Muller Conquistador from a well respected dealer. He assured me that this was the rare version with the 2892-2 ETA mechanism. It even has the ETA stamp as you can see from the images below. A respected forum member emailed me to tell me it's a Seagull ST18 and not an ETA. Please can you have a look and let me know your thoughts? As this is such a famous and well loved mechanism I am hoping someone will be able to tell me before I send the heavies around to the dealer - he told me it was a genuine mechanism and I believed him because of the ETA stamps. Let me know what you think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoesmith Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 The rotor looks ETA not seagull but the Balance looks seagull/asian. not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 yep the pins that hold the balance spring look a but dodgy but the rest looks fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Copy movement, all of it...even the stamps if you look closely are actually engraved or inked, not a die mark like the ETA. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanx Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) Copy movement, all of it...even the stamps if you look closely are actually engraved or inked, not a die mark like the ETA. RG woohoo, that's what I posted at rwi: from looking at the pics your 2892-2 stamp is actually laser etched, and the shock system is differant. Paul/Womart was famous for selling these movements, could be the dealer was misled by the maker. Sorry Tom, but i'm sure the dealer will make it right for you. Edited July 28, 2008 by supermanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thank you all for such a quick and comprehensive response. I guess that clears that one up. I have sent an email to Jay at Silix explaining the situation and we'll see what he says. It was sold on his website as a genuine ETA 2892 and I asked him three time if he could guarantee it was genuine....three times he said yes it was the genuine article. I hope he was just as unknowing as me in this. We shall see. Thanks again to all that helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 how much was the watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 In fairness to Jay, he was probably fooled by the fake movement himself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 In fairness to Jay, he was probably fooled by the fake movement himself... I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) My gut feeling says he's not to blame either, but the fact is I paid for an ETA not an asian clone. If something looks too good to be true.........why don't I listen and learn? I'll let you know what his response is, but I am sure he'll be fine. Edited July 28, 2008 by Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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