SmoothOperator Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Does anyone recognise this watch? This is the Sea-Gull version with working Tourbillon. I'm wondering if it is based on a GEN watch or if it is in fact an "original" design If you find the GEN .. please post a pic. (I will transfer you some RWG-CASH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothOperator Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 And another example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothOperator Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 And another: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothOperator Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 and one more: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothOperator Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 And finally .. although not a tourbillon and no prizes for guessing what watch it was based on: here's a nice skeleton: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronk_83 Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I wonder what the prices are on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Does anyone recognise this watch? This is the Sea-Gull version with working Tourbillon. I'm wondering if it is based on a GEN watch or if it is in fact an "original" design If you find the GEN .. please post a pic. (I will transfer you some RWG-CASH) Nothing made in China is original I think this is based on the Blancpain, but the stem is on the other side. Here's one Sea-Gull you missed: (From one of my earlier posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 This is the Sea-Gull version with working Tourbillon. Here's a watch using what looks to be that movement: http://www.timeworksonline.com/augatoporeca.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Do we have any input yet from longer term owners of replicas with this movement, the VC Tor or the Breguet et al. as to the mechanical reliability? They sell in the $600-1000 range on Josh's site and I'm wondering if they are worth the risk. I would think repair of this movement if it fails would be prohibitive compared to the purchase price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I seem to remember that The Zigmeister mentioned that he found it impossible to obtain spare parts for the Seagull tourbillion. Of course, he may have been able to rectify the situation, since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I seem to remember that Ziggy mentioned that he found it impossible to obtain spare parts for the Seagull tourbillion. I've always been tempted by these beauties, but the spare parts issue raised by Rob has always made me think twice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I've always been tempted by these beauties, but the spare parts issue raised by Rob has always made me think twice... Didn't Edge just win one? We'll soon have all the info we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I've had the Breguet Tourbillion rep. with this same movement for over 20 months and it has been reliable and keeps good time. Acquired from an RWG member who originally purchased it from Paul/Aspire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addingwatch Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Since The Zigmeister is out for the summer, I thought I would chime in. It was my tourbillon that The Zigmeister has always discussed. Always wanting a tourbillon, but not wanting to spend $40K, I bought the first generation. I paid about $800. The dial and movement looked so good, I even had the case gold plated by Artisan plating (those of you know both how good they are and how long it takes). It worked for about 3 months and then stopped working. The Zigmeister tried everything (and it even became a challenge for him). He never found anything wrong, but in the end the quality of the movement was just too fragile. He strongly recommend I give up my persuit. But The Zigmeister still had the case, so I started searching for a replacement movement. I found one that The Zigmeister & I thought was a match, purchased it and sent it to The Zigmeister. This newer version is of much higher quality. The Zigmeister believes that it will be much more reliable. The only problem is that the stem is deeper than the old movement, so it didn't work in the case. Now, my gold case, beautiful Breguet dial, brand new tourbillon movement and old broken one sit in one of The Zigmeister's boxes. Then Eddie came out with the Skeleton version tourbillon(now everyone has it). I couldn't help myself and bought the first one. I have had it about six months with no problems. It is very beautiful, but has one problem. The hands are off center, but the hour marker (and white ring) are designed for a center hand placement, hence in the 3 and 9 positions the hands are off location. Hope that helps. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Since Ziggy is out for the summer, I thought I would chime in. It was my tourbillon that ziggy has always discussed. Always wanting a tourbillon, but not wanting to spend $40K, I bought the first generation. I paid about $800. The dial and movement looked so good, I even had the case gold plated by Artisan plating (those of you know both how good they are and how long it takes). It worked for about 3 months and then stopped working. Ziggy tried everything (and it even became a challenge for him). He never found anything wrong, but in the end the quality of the movement was just too fragile. He strongly recommend I give up my persuit. But Ziggy still had the case, so I started searching for a replacement movement. I found one that Ziggy & I thought was a match, purchased it and sent it to Ziggy. This newer version is of much higher quality. Ziggy believes that it will be much more reliable. The only problem is that the stem is deeper than the old movement, so it didn't work in the case. Now, my gold case, beautiful Breguet dial, brand new tourbillon movement and old broken one sit in one of Ziggy's boxes. Then Eddie came out with the Skeleton version tourbillon(now everyone has it). I couldn't help myself and bought the first one. I have had it about six months with no problems. It is very beautiful, but has one problem. The hands are off center, but the hour marker (and white ring) are designed for a center hand placement, hence in the 3 and 9 positions the hands are off location. Hope that helps. Regards. Think I'll wait a while before getting one of these. Looks like the folks at Sea-Gull are working on the kinks and reliability is on the upswing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankt Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 I've got the "patek" version of this watch....I'm curious as to which "gen" it was based upon??...I know the movement is a Venus 175 clone, but I can't recall ever seeing another genuine in this configuration... And finally .. although not a tourbillon and no prizes for guessing what watch it was based on: here's a nice skeleton: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Since Ziggy is out for the summer, I thought I would chime in. It was my tourbillon that ziggy has always discussed. Always wanting a tourbillon, but not wanting to spend $40K, I bought the first generation. I paid about $800. The dial and movement looked so good, I even had the case gold plated by Artisan plating (those of you know both how good they are and how long it takes). It worked for about 3 months and then stopped working. Ziggy tried everything (and it even became a challenge for him). He never found anything wrong, but in the end the quality of the movement was just too fragile. He strongly recommend I give up my persuit. But Ziggy still had the case, so I started searching for a replacement movement. I found one that Ziggy & I thought was a match, purchased it and sent it to Ziggy. This newer version is of much higher quality. Ziggy believes that it will be much more reliable. The only problem is that the stem is deeper than the old movement, so it didn't work in the case. Now, my gold case, beautiful Breguet dial, brand new tourbillon movement and old broken one sit in one of Ziggy's boxes. Then Eddie came out with the Skeleton version tourbillon(now everyone has it). I couldn't help myself and bought the first one. I have had it about six months with no problems. It is very beautiful, but has one problem. The hands are off center, but the hour marker (and white ring) are designed for a center hand placement, hence in the 3 and 9 positions the hands are off location. Hope that helps. Regards. J- Do you have any pics by chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addingwatch Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 @ubiquitous - Here you go... Regards. My replacement movement New watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Damn... Very nice!! The finish on those movements is gorgeous! I see what you mean about the hand alignment with the 3:00 and 9:00 position on the new one though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addingwatch Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 The alignment is slightly annoying. I have thought of trying to have it redone. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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