vmena Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I decided to go for his model with SS from a trusted dealer, who confirmed he had the V3, with correct sub-dials, lume, double AR and non-crocked markers. I have some concerns that I would like to share with you. Maybe it's me and my picky behavior but I'm no 100% I've got what I asked for (which easily might be just my mistake), so please share your thoughts and opinions. Will be very much appreciated. From my perspective these are the watch aspects I'm don't feel fully satisfied: Dial color: I though it was black light a strong coffee! but seems to be light dark. Maybe it's the way it should be.Hour markers: Also I though thy were white like snow but they look like "dirty white" or more close to beige. Probably white was only in my mind.Lume: V3 was suppose to have a strong lume... I find this one just a decent lume... AR: Some times sems to be good for me, some others no... I'm clearly an undecided guy Bracelet clasp is not easy to open or close. This is not a guess, it's a fact. So here are the pictures... feel free to comment: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Looks good, get some Swiss 7750 datewheels in there and you have yourself a 99% rep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Looks good to me, congrats! Also never expect really strong good rep lume, it will never happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb1 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 looks like it should. relax and enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Looks good, get some Swiss 7750 datewheels in there and you have yourself a 99% rep! Already in my drawer waiting for a trip to my watchmaker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Can't wait to see the results. It's often the smaller details that make all the difference! Good to see you posting again too Vmena, haven't seen you around for a while or have I just missed the posts Edited January 6, 2009 by b16a2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwinner Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Had 2 3717's around lately and had it side-2-side with my gen mk XVI both had the same black colouring dial colour issue. when compared to the gen (which is deep-black) the 3717's looked rather grey. When you put the 3717 on your wrist though, this issue pretty much disappears ;-) so totally agree... get a set of ETA DD-wheels, but preferably also the newer double-AR; this will really make your eyes roll once you get it back on your wrist. Can say this as I have been wearing an Ingy rep for quite some time and was always put-off by the shine. After getting a double-AR version now I know I should have done this before. It's even better than the AR on my gen mk XVI!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Probably the best dial they've done yet. Nice piece. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwinner Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 and in order to even more enjoy this great dial, make sure you get some Double-AR; it's definitaly worth the $ and effort! This great piece truly deserve's it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asim Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 yep, its a great looking watch. In fact my all time fav looking watch! i still need to get the D.AR done to mine. shame you cannot get a gen valjoux 7750 into the V2 or V3. unless somebody believed there may be a possibility?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 yep, its a great looking watch. In fact my all time fav looking watch! i still need to get the D.AR done to mine. shame you cannot get a gen valjoux 7750 into the V2 or V3. unless somebody believed there may be a possibility?? A swiss 7750 will fit into all versions of the 3717 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Nice IWC! I suppose if you're unhappy with the lume and AR you can always get it modded along with adding in those Swiss datewheels, but it looks pretty darn good to me without these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Good to see you posting again too Vmena, haven't seen you around for a while or have I just missed the posts Thanks b16a2! too much work and just a few time for hobbies... both had the same black colouring dial color issue. when compared to the gen (which is deep-black) the 3717's looked rather grey erwinner, I had the chance of comparing rep and gen dials side by side and both have the same color...this rare "pale" black. I suppose if you're unhappy with the lume and AR you can always get it modded asim and Pylon: yes, the AR upgrade is needed... my swiss SFSO has far a better AR than this. A swiss 7750 will fit into all versions of the 3717 Yes, but only the hands from the old Asian 7750 fit the ETA. Now, for your enjoyment, the watch on TWB leather strap with rep buckle. Nice, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 .....the watch aspects I'm don't feel fully satisfied Dial color: I though it was black light a strong coffee! but seems to be light dark. Maybe it's the way it should be. Hour markers: Also I though thy were white like snow but they look like "dirty white" or more close to beige. Probably white was only in my mind. Lume: V3 was suppose to have a strong lume... I find this one just a decent lume... AR: Some times sems to be good for me, some others no... I'm clearly an undecided guy I've had several gens in my hand and the color seems to differ every time. I think the black color of the gen dial is much influenced by the blueish AR. It changes under different light and different angles from dark black to greyish black. The gen dial also has a somewhat textured surface. The hour markers and fonts are supposed to be clear white. On your pics unfortunately the fonts of 'IWC Schaffhausen' and the subdial fonts are too greyish and should be as clear white as the hour markers. But so far I haven't seen a rep dial correct in this way (even not V1). Too bad the 3, 6 and 9 markers are still a tad too thick. But The Zigmeister can do a great job by replacing them with lume (see Chiefs pics) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peyups Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hi vmena, Nice IWC. I read from some posts before that you can fit the 28.8k hands on the ETA 7750 by broaching them. I just don't know what that means and how to really do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 I've had several gens in my hand and the color seems to differ every time. I think the black color of the gen dial is much influenced by the blueish AR. It changes under different light and different angles from dark black to greyish black. The gen dial also has a somewhat textured surface. The hour markers and fonts are supposed to be clear white. On your pics unfortunately the fonts of 'IWC Schaffhausen' and the subdial fonts are too greyish and should be as clear white as the hour markers. But so far I haven't seen a rep dial correct in this way (even not V1). Too bad the 3, 6 and 9 markers are still a tad too thick. But The Zigmeister can do a great job by replacing them with lume (see Chiefs pics) I made those comments before having the opportunity of comparing mine with a gen side by side. Gen has also that light dark dial and the markers are also not clear white (anyway, in my pics I was not able to reproduce the correct color for markers and font). And believe me, you can not spot the thick of the markers even having rep and gen side by side unless you already now that flaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 ....And believe me, you can not spot the thick of the markers even having rep and gen side by side unless you already now that flaw. But I know and that keeps bugging me..... I'm getting way too anal for reps these days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 But I know and that keeps bugging me..... I'm getting way too anal for reps these days . I understand you very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 I understand you very well Sometimes I hate myself in striving for the perfect rep, while I know it will never be 100% exact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asim Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 see, but that's the beauty with reps. you start to feel more and more "one" with the rep because you are trying to make it better and better. In most cases, esp with the 3717, the rep by default looks 95%, added with ETA DW= 98%, double AR= 99% and in the eventuality of a A7750 with S7750 swap you get yourself a 99.5% rep. you can just add more and more, the percentage always goes up. there is always excitement etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Get the AR and the DW done and you have a absolutely lovely watch. I really love it with the croc strap. Great combo with the white stitching. I agree with you about the markers. I don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipSlap Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 What's the lug width on this model? I can't find it anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmena Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 What's the lug width on this model? I can't find it anywhere. 21mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCYL Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 how's the quality of the steel on this one? from my noob experience, i tend to find the steel on rep watches shine quite differently than the steel on gen. this is especially obvious when you have gen and rep side by side under the light (like those for display at the AD). i wonder if it has to do with the level of polishing done or the innate quality of the steel being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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