zesh Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi I was going to look to buy one of the beauties from homer. A tourbillion. My question is that is it reliable? I have a guarantee buy what experiences have your guys had with these movements. It is a pricey watch so i would like some peace of mind that it would break down or lose accuracy within a couple months. I've good experiences with my rolex movements and unitas from panerai. But the tourby is more expensive. Can anyone input Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I've never had an issue and I've owned three...generally they run within 2-10 seconds per day...my watchmaker adjusted my latest one and it easily meets COSC..especially (and as expected) when it's in the crown up/crown down position...I've banged my latest one on the doorjamb quite a few times by accident and scooting around people at parties/ at bars and have never had an issue... the Tourbillon mechanism appears to be very well manufactured and quite robust but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 2 years with an asian Seagull movement tourbillon, no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Great to see you again Omni... I love to see senior members who come back to life here.. Hope you stay... Cheers, MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zesh Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 So does anyone except king and homer have any tourbies? I love the double tourbillion but is there anyone who can get one for a good price? seagull want like 3k for one i think. I think it will be my next purchase as they are truly understated, but show a real passion for a good time piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Josh and Andrew have them- pricier though... Homer's is the best bang for the buck (unless member DVN has sold the two he was selling in the trade section earlier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seymur Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 As I know Josh do not sell anymore Real Tourbillon watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 My experience has been very positive- Great reliability, accurate time keeping and very nice to look at. Had I worn mine more often, I'd likely still have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailboss Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 2 years with an asian Seagull movement tourbillon, no problems. The Million Smarts sold by Homer use the Liaoning 5010 as the base MVT not the Sea-Gull ST80. Tho a cheaper MVT there is nothing wrong with the 5010. It is a reliable MVT and spares are redialy available inc thru Homer himself. Homer can also service and repair these MVTs. The ST80 is a more expensive MVT and more acurate however the 5010 can still be regulated to within COSOC, the ST80 to well within and the Beijing Watch Factory TB01-2 is reputed to approch some Euro Tourbys in accuracy. Here are the basics on current China Tourby production. Current Chinese Developments Beijing TB01-2 In 2000, the Beijing Watch Factory revisited the tourbillon concept and reworked it for limited production. The result was the TB01-2 flying carrousel-tourbillon, currently the most expensive production Chinese tourbillon on the market. It features a titanium flying tourbillon cage, and is usually elaborately decorated on both dial and movement. Beijing have also developed a double-tourbillon. Liaoning 5010 Costing much less and thus reaching a much wider market, this calibre has enjoyed great success cased-up by http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/inde...art_EnterprisesMillion Smart Enterprises for a variety of new international brands. Shanghai The Shanghai Watch Industry Corporation launched their Classic Tourbillon as an exclusive Shanghai-branded product only, however they have since followed the trend and offered this somewhat expensive movement for sale to other watch companies. Returning to Breguet's original idea, this movement features a large balance-wheel on a common axis to the tourbillon cage. In 2007 Shanghai revealed their amazing Orbital Tourbillon, which features either one or two tourbillons mounted on a 12-hour carrousel platform. PTS Resources FD-3032 This was the first Chinese tourbillon to be reviewed online. Clearly built to a budget, and featuring components from the humble Standard movement, it is nonetheless as impressive as any tourbillon that actually works. In 2007 PTS presented a prototype '12 Hour Karrousel' movement of unusual design and much higher grade. Sea-Gull ST80 Most Chinese tourbillons owe something to the Blancpain flying carrousel-tourbillon design, but this is the one with the closest physical resemblance. Of higher quality than all but the TB01-2, the ST80 is still ery competitively priced. The newer ST82 features a common axis tourbillon similar to the Shanghai. Auto-winding is now available on both. In 2006 Sea-Gull released their ST8080 double tourbillon withone carrousel-tourbillon and one common axis. Dixmont DG-8000 A latecomer to the field, Dixmont-Guangzhou have focussed on auto-winding on their tourbillons. The escapement appears so similar to that of the ST80 that it is likely that they buy Sea-Gull parts for their movements. The DG-8001 is similar but with a common-axis tourbillon. Regards, Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Col. is correct regarding the Homer Tourbillon. In my case, I have the full skeleton tourbillon with the Seagull ST80 flying duck. So how do you tell which you have? The ST80 looks very similar to the Blancpain design with a "flying duck" while the Liaong 5010 is the 4 screw design. ST80 Liaong 5010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zesh Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I think i'm gonna pull the trigger on a tourby. Dvn is selling a gold EX homer one. Just as soon as the order is confirmed This is a big moment for me in my watch collecting history. It's quite exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zesh Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I think i'm gonna pull the trigger on a tourby. Dvn is selling a gold EX homer one. Just as soon as the order is confirmed This is a big moment for me in my watch collecting history. It's quite exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member X Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Get some pics up when it arrives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye_lin Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 The Million Smarts sold by Homer use the Liaoning 5010 as the base MVT not the Sea-Gull ST80. Tho a cheaper MVT there is nothing wrong with the 5010. It is a reliable MVT and spares are redialy available inc thru Homer himself. Homer can also service and repair these MVTs. The ST80 is a more expensive MVT and more acurate however the 5010 can still be regulated to within COSOC, the ST80 to well within and the Beijing Watch Factory TB01-2 is reputed to approch some Euro Tourbys in accuracy. Here are the basics on current China Tourby production. Current Chinese Developments Beijing TB01-2 In 2000, the Beijing Watch Factory revisited the tourbillon concept and reworked it for limited production. The result was the TB01-2 flying carrousel-tourbillon, currently the most expensive production Chinese tourbillon on the market. It features a titanium flying tourbillon cage, and is usually elaborately decorated on both dial and movement. Beijing have also developed a double-tourbillon. Liaoning 5010 Costing much less and thus reaching a much wider market, this calibre has enjoyed great success cased-up by http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/inde...art_EnterprisesMillion Smart Enterprises for a variety of new international brands. Shanghai The Shanghai Watch Industry Corporation launched their Classic Tourbillon as an exclusive Shanghai-branded product only, however they have since followed the trend and offered this somewhat expensive movement for sale to other watch companies. Returning to Breguet's original idea, this movement features a large balance-wheel on a common axis to the tourbillon cage. In 2007 Shanghai revealed their amazing Orbital Tourbillon, which features either one or two tourbillons mounted on a 12-hour carrousel platform. PTS Resources FD-3032 This was the first Chinese tourbillon to be reviewed online. Clearly built to a budget, and featuring components from the humble Standard movement, it is nonetheless as impressive as any tourbillon that actually works. In 2007 PTS presented a prototype '12 Hour Karrousel' movement of unusual design and much higher grade. Sea-Gull ST80 Most Chinese tourbillons owe something to the Blancpain flying carrousel-tourbillon design, but this is the one with the closest physical resemblance. Of higher quality than all but the TB01-2, the ST80 is still ery competitively priced. The newer ST82 features a common axis tourbillon similar to the Shanghai. Auto-winding is now available on both. In 2006 Sea-Gull released their ST8080 double tourbillon withone carrousel-tourbillon and one common axis. Dixmont DG-8000 A latecomer to the field, Dixmont-Guangzhou have focussed on auto-winding on their tourbillons. The escapement appears so similar to that of the ST80 that it is likely that they buy Sea-Gull parts for their movements. The DG-8001 is similar but with a common-axis tourbillon. Regards, Col. Where can I get the Beijing TB01-2 watch?? Pics?? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zesh Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Good question, I'm not sure anyone can answer. I've only seen pics of a double tourbillon but if i could get my hands on one then its mine. I've been told that it will take a week for me to receive my watch. so i'll put some pics up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Where can I get the Beijing TB01-2 watch?? Pics?? Thanks... $2,100 ...........Beyeshop.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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