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TC Sub LV, gen black insert:

Please would you please stop asking the same bloody question on different sections, Read the noob guide as suggested and use these links as also explained Do these things and you time on here will be much more enjoyable

Someone say Franken ROO? :)

Still 243 but with new strap...

The dial is 60 - 70 years old. Who knows what it's experienced in it's life time. There are a number of gens out there that exhibit dial wear... Most likely from watchmakers over time not taking the proper care or precaution to protect the dial as there was likely never any thought given to the fact that these would someday not only be collectible, but also selling in the $15k - $30k range: http://catalog.antiquorum.com/catalog.html?action=load&lotid=301&auctionid=266 http://catalog.antiquorum.com/catalog.html?action=load&lotid=104&auctionid=262 http://catalog.antiquorum.com/catalog.html?action=load&lotid=331&auctionid=256 Or perhaps exposure to elements, which somewhat segues into the dials themselves. Some folks have asked me what champleve is. Essentially, it's a form of enamelling where you have a base metal foundation that is carved/engraved and those engravings are filled and fired with enamel. The foundation in this case is the dial which serves as the frame work for the enamel. So... Why choose this method for dial print? During this era, genuine PP and a host of other brands did not have a waterproof case. As such, the dial was produced in a manner that would persevere possible water damage (or contact to other elements), or at least survive to the point of being a candidate for surface refinishing. Since the dial print was hard enamel, it would survive and at least maintan the overall appearance of the dial layout. I also believe this method was employed to prevent fading, etc as well. Or so I've been told. Here is what champleve looks like: Note that the print and chapter are raised. Thank you kindly, sirs. Much appreciated

and I recommend doing some basic searches before asking these questions. http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/157136-trusty-time-shifting-to-new-domain/

@SSTEEL: no not really. You press the hands onto the pivot/stem of the second gear or the pinion of the minute / hour wheel. If you can't press the hands down, you probably need to enlarge the diameter of the hole (of the hands) but just a fraction of a millimetre. A drill bit would be to imprecise, so you use a broach. If you forced the hands onto the pinions chances are you damage something (pivots, jewel). Hope this helps (no, I'm no watchsmith)

Turn left in Tokyo, proceed straight to Shanghai, then take the D Train to Guanzhou.

Open the diameter of the hands, thats sometimes necessary to fit them. And you use a broach for that...

Haha!!! Sorry guys I mean soap!!!

Here's something you don't see everyday, ghost hands, super rare.

Others great shots

Another stack....

Got 35k miles on her since 2011. Gas guzzler, but the diesel convention is coming next year. For now she's got the updated ring and pinion to 4.86 rolling on 35" tires. Last night in the snow the drive was more than fun

Tudor Tuesday .....

SGT you promised me first dibs on the casio....

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It wouldn't matter to me. Rolex calling this an Explorer is like Chevy calling the new mid-size wanna-be Wimpala and Impala!

Finished product...

All of the above and for my part a gift from a generous friend that being said I have donated more than the upgrade from VIP. I have not started a thread but it is the perfect opportunity to bring into the light the sales thread getting back to it's old form and the lack of A holes storming the gates. It was a long time without income for the guys running the place so go Plat. and help out.

If you go to Olongopo...... Go up main street till the end, turn right, go @ 1/2 kilo to the "Rose" cafe...Ask for Erlinda.....Tell her "4 eyes" sent you... It's been @ 48 years, but i'm sure she'll remember me... PS...Be careful!!!....She carries a loaded .45 auto in her purse at all times!!! ahhhhhh......true love!!!!

is that a ford key repped to Porsche - nice work! lol

Beautiful pictures. Well done. For me, the OEM Asso is the nicest. When I got my first gen PAM, I went strap crazy for a while, then eventually realized that after all the swapping, shuffling, and gouging up the lugs, the only straps I ever wore were the OEM rubber strap and the first plain old brown Micah strap I bought. So I sold off my strap collection and the only thing that noticed was my bank account, certainly not my wrist. The Micah strap eventually wore out, I replaced it with an Asso, and now that's the only strap I use along with the rubber. The strap-thing is a neat part of PAM collecting,

So today I was at Home Depot. I am replacing a window sill and I had to get some wood cut to size. The gentleman that came over to help me was, shall we say, somewhat "seasoned" in his years, very helpful and very pleasant. He remarked on how he thought it was great a "young guy" like me (I'm 46) would tackle a job like replacing a window sill "everyone these days just wants to replace everything. . .nobody fixes things anymore". As he set up for the cut with the table saw, I noticed something very familiar on his wrist. "That's quite a prize you've got there" I said pointing at his arm. He looked at the bruise mid forearm and said "yeah. I got that restocking. . .you bruise easily when you get old like me". . I said "no-no, your 1680" "my what?" "your WATCH". He glanced at his wrist and smiled a wry smile "yeah, nobody around here can believe I wear a Rolex to work around here" And he looked at my wrist, which was sporting my franken 5512 on Nato. "Neither can I", I said, "you really shouldn't be wearing that around here". He then tell me that he bought it off a friend "years ago". He was always asking his friend "hey Bill, when are you gonna sell me your Rolex?" Then he says one day Bill came to him and asked if he would still buy the watch "you see, Bill had taken his girlfriend on a little vacation and didn't want his wife to find out, so he needed $400 bucks quick to put back in the bank". "You paid $400 for that?" "Yeah, but then I didn't wear it for a long time. I stuck it in my drawer. A while ago, my other watch finally kicked. I was going to buy another watch but then remembered this (looking at his wrist) and whatdoyaknow, a gave it a few winds and she's been working fine ever since". "May I see it?" Sure, he says and slides it off his wrist. It's nearly pristine. A 1680, meters first, red dial, silver date wheel, Top Hat 127 all original fantastic patina. . . I've got a semi going. . .o.k. fine, I came in my pants a little. He then proceeds to tell me when his old watch died he was originally thinking of selling it "you know, get something new. Something better", but that something made him decide to keep it. I told him I was glad he did, but that he should still get a different watch to wear to work. "Yeah, you're probably right, people probably think I make too much money wearing a $400 watch, ha ha" "ummmmm. That's worth a LOT more than $400. . ." "yeah, I guess it's an antique these days, huh? I suppose it could be worth a little more than that now" "Try 15 times more" silence. "ah. . .you're putting an old man on, now. . ." I borrow a passer-by's iPad, log onto VRF and show him. He actually cried.

As you know a new version of AP with running seconds at 12 is available. The question is

I didnt intentionally round off the corners. The top right hand corner wasnt even touched. My files may not have been "sharp" enough to replicate exact 90 degree corners on such a small scale.... but Yes, like i said, I could have remade the bevel around the edges but i was too concerned about the touchup paint not matching the rest of the dial and making a mess so i left it as is with only a small area inside the window to touch up. If you re-beveled it, there was be a lot of metal showing through that would require touchup and refinishing. This is the first time I have ever tried pulling off a dial and modifying it. This was just a fun project for me to see if everything worked and lined up and it did. If someone is concerned about the bevel and other small details like that, I would suggest just buying a Yuki dial for $180 and installing that. A gen dial will fit this case without modification as the stock PT dial is over 27mm in diameter. dizz

There's 1 I know as well. PM me if you are interested.