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New dial and gen hands!!! 6538

Interesting pictures inside a Chinese watch factory http://www.ctime.com/watch/price/378-1.html Use google chrome browser to translate.

First of all a big thanks to Toro Bravo for a lightning fast delivery and smooth transaction. You can't go wrong with him and he is definitely on his way to being one of the best dealers throughout the boards. So here it is guys. My review and opinion on the new p3000 clone. I will not go into the watch itself because member Ale has done some very extensive research and has aded all the info to his 'panerai bible' so look it up. I will start with a short 'management summary' before I continue to the pictures. This movement is not based on an existing movement. It has 2 barrels and the movement design mimics the genuine p3000 design. It is however completely different. Genuine parts are absolutely not interchangeable. I have never taken apart a genuine p3000 so I can only go by internet pictures. If I would have to set my money on a manufacturer of the p3000 clone it would be the factory that produces the IWC Jones movement. In terms of finishing and design I get the same vibe. Besides both barrels the movement was oiled properly and clean. Parts were finished well according to rep standards. Some plating issues here and there and discolouration of metal. But when dealing with Chinese movements this is normal and it does not affect long term reliability. The p3000 clone was easy to take apart and is absolutely serviceable. Getting it back together is a different story. The gear train is extremely wobbly and the gear train plate very difficult to assemble. You need a special tweezer in order to reach all the gears and align them properly with the jewels. It was perhaps the hardest bridge I have ever had to install. Especially because spare parts are non existent. So if you break one little pivot say bye bye to the movement. Also because most jewel holes lay very deep it is almost impossible to see what you are doing when oiling them. Even with a 10x loupe you are almost working in the dark... But when finished this movement runs like a champ and I see no reason why it would be any less reliable than an 6497. I think this p3000 clone is on par. I can not yet comment of the power reserve as I immediately torn the movement apart to review but I suspect it will reach those 72h without a problem. The details: When I first saw the p3000 when it came out a couple of weeks ago I was very excited. The p9000 clones could not get my motor started as they did not clone any of it's functions. Only the aesthetics was looked after with some decorative plates. A pig in a dress or whatever you want to call it. But this new p3000 clone however was a whole different story. I could clearly see this was not based an existing movement (e.g. 7750/ 6497/2824 etc). So I did not hesitate and ordered one right away to review... Upon arrival I could not take my eyes from the back. The movement just looks gorgeous. Nice detail inside case back They even hid the ugly movement tabs underneath the pretty ones lol. Before taking the movement apart I put it on the timegrapher. It runs at 21.600 bph and the amplitude was ok but rate and beat were off. As this new movement has a free sprung balance (so I thought) I was a bit terrified as regulating it can be a b!tch. However upon closer inspection I noticed the rate stud hidden order the bridge. Thank god! That means the stellar screws on the balance are for show and this movement can be regulated like any other. Here you can see it more clearly with the decorative plate removed. An incabloc shock absorber which is also very reliable. Solid bridge and underside balance view. Clean "POL" engraving underneath the balance. No clue what it stands for. The oiled barrel jewels Look at the 3 layered dial!!!!!.... That will need a special canon pinion right? Huh?.. That is a deep hole. No special canon pinion but special hands. So forget replacing them.. Here you can see the base plate with the dial removed. Nicely finished and clean. No date option and a normal keyless which has some grease... Some part close ups.. Here is the barrel bridge removed. Nice and solid. The 2 barrels exposed The underside of the barrel bridge (I used foil with this movement as the brushed plates are prone to scratches) Barrel 1 (clean but not oiled) Barrel 2 (clean but not oiled) Here you can see both main springs. The barrel 2 mainspring is longer. Here is the gear train. Completely different than the gen p3000 with a aded pinion to transfer the power to the top of the movement: the canon pinion (= minute wheel) The pinion I'm talking about Other parts are also well finished Final shot on the timegrapher taken a hour ago after full service and regulation. Performing like a gen ... Here is a genuine p3000 (pictures from Google search) and you can see the similarities and differences in bridges and gears. Well that was all folks. Hope you liked the review. Based on my findings I would say the watch is definitely worth the extra $100. Although not a 100% the same in appearance and function as the p3000 it comes very close. Maybe the closest we will ever see? It is a reliable movement and it will give you that extra dimension of a genuine feeling. I'm still testing it so unfortunately I can not yet comment on the power reserve whether it actually is 72h. But I think it will come close. Tanks for reading Mark

Hi guys, Some pictures of my new Tudor Submariner 7928. - Tudor Submariner with Rose dial - Josh Case - Rep custom folded link bracelet - Rep "No Name" endlinks - Caseback engraving by JMB - Vintage relume (dial and hands) by The Zigmeister - Lollipop second hand replaced and lumed by The Zigmeister - Genuine T-19 crystal - Dia 39mm x 13mm Thk Enough said, let the pictures do the talking! Some pictures after I bleached the insert: I hope you enjoyed the pictures!

Yea. TC doesn't sell 21j hands. You can order some from raffles. I might actually have a hour and min hand for a 21j. I think they're gold though. If you want em, I can mail them to you.

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the explorers are great reps. the main flaw is the hands. easily fixed with a set of TC hands unless its a 21j. there are plenty of skinny merc hands for 21js too. everything else looks great.

OFFENSIV???? BAN HIM!!!!!! HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU USE THIS AVATAR?!

Legend, you are correct, I was impressed by the CZ's. Don't have any idea as to how they will hold up over the long haul, but they sure look good now. She really likes it, and that's what's important. As has been said many times before" Happy wife, happy life"!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Get a no-date Sub from Pure-Time or if you want better quality get one from BK on here, if you need a date version get a TC V6. If you don't know what any of that means, you haven't spent enough time on the board, BK and TC are both trusted dealers, and can be found in sales area. Good luck.

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If I remember correctly, OMEGA should be connected in the middle of the letters not along the bottom of them, but unless you study the watch close up, you'll never see it anyway. Same goes for ghe happy feet logo.

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OMG someone stole the inside of your watch!!

If you don't have a proper tool, you might try this (I have no idea how you call this in English...)

Haha I understand the feeling It's easy if you have the right "tool"

excellent. I need to find something now. Itching to get this back on my wrist

I didn't use a springbar tool, I used a little pin which fits this:

Push the springbar out of the clasp and fit the strap, place the springbar back and it's fixed