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Bronzo on custom Simona Mosaic Blue

This is just my opinion on the service of the 2 movements. The reason I give for not servicing the Asian movement is because of the quality of the parts. You can buy a brand new Asian 2836-2 or 2824-2 for around $100. A new swiss is around $220. The main difference I see between the asian and swiss is the metal used. The quality of the metal used in the swiss is much better than the Asian. When I loop the asian parts I can see that the quality and finish of the parts is much less than those in the swiss movement. Things like the mainspring and tub, the gears in the train, the date corrector wheel, the hairspring, the yoke, the yoke corrector and so on. While you can certainly service the asian movement, by the time you get all the parts installed and put back together, you're approaching the cost of a movement. You certainly want to replace all the gears in the train, those cost around $20. The mainspring, depending on the age of the movement could be very weak, again because of the metal used to mfg. The mainspring assy is around $20. So now, if you put all those parts in, you're almost at the cost of a new movement, including the labor. I don't think I've ever seen a third wheel and pinion break on a swiss, but I've seen several on an asian. The quality of the metal used throughout the swiss movement provides years of trouble free service. While the asian movements of late have been greatly improved, and really perform well, they are still not on the quality level of the swiss. For the money, asian is still a great buy. However, if you have a major problem with it, just replace it. You'll be glad you did. That's my take on it.

Maybe you've seen this one before you think. Well almost. I had a 5512 PCG on MBW-base that I finished with help from Rolojack about 6 months ago. However, my friend liked it so much, and I had a spare 7928 dial, so... This is the sequel. The question was, is the Cartel/JKF-whatever a good enough base? Almost. Watch: "Cartel" 7019/7928-ish tudor w/ 2836 = (apox 230 USD - aprox 100 USD sold parts) = 130 USD Dial: Vietnam 7928 26mm gilt = picked it up for about 120 USD, "usual price" aprox 250-300 USD Hands: TC 16613-hands w/ lollipop TigerConcept seconds hand, lumed by Big Daz = 60 USD incl lume Insert: Yuki fat font w/ Athaya pearl, lumed by Big Daz = aprox 70 USD Movement: ETA 2846 = non-hacking and "low-"beat, from donor watch, aprox 70 USD Crown + crown tube: Athaya 700 = aprox 30 USD Bracelet: WSO 580 + Cartel -fixed "93150, with solid link" + BP ceramic sub Glidelock-clasp and remaining links = from spare parts (will be replaced for a Noob v7-clasp) = aprox 100 USD when done Crystal: Forgot, however it will be replaced to a CWP T19 = 50 USD -------------------------- Rolojack did most of the work. I reshaped the PCG's a bit more, also buffed and polished the crown and caseback. Also thinned the bezel in height and flatter, as the Cartel-bezel was not even close to 5512/7928. What is left: - Clarks/WSO 5512-bezel ass. Haven't decided yet. - Drill another Cartel "93150" as the tolerance is so low that RJ was unlucky (of the 4 he has done, only one turned up like this). Anyone has a spare one? Pretty please? --------------------------- Rolojack's pictures: My pictures: ... Not bad for 630 USD in parts cost? Right?

Yes - green superluminova. They didn't use the blue until the went to ceramic subs.

I tread softly along the fine line separating raving insanity and lucid moments of ingenuity. The issue is I've no idea which is which mostly.

I think the pigment solution is the most rational, considering that the lume is a pigment too. Where did you buy these btw?

The only reason I'd let the beautiful 5513 back into the wild...

Hey all just checking in with an update. Got it back up and running smoothly. End conclusion what that the movement was loose in the case (movement ring was not a great fit) and therefore making changing the crown positions challenging/problematic. The running backwards I think was caused when the crown wouldn't be able to be put back into normal position and was jammed somewhere between time set and calendar set position and this being a non-hacking movement caused the reverse run. Anyways took it apart and found the calendar wheel and day wheels were rubbing also on the back of the dial so I chose to leave them out during the reassembly, figured flaking paint and the friction was not a nice thing to have going on inside :). Also installed a hacking lever after talking with Philosopher. Anyways here are a couple photos as we all love pics!

I've been selling all the watches for some time ... And I bought one again and made some pictures of it. Regards.

for my part I use sennelier pigment powder. Terre de Sienne, Jaune de Naples,...

Mmmmmmm, does it get any better than this?