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I think if we could get a trusted dealer involved and give him/her say a 50% deposit for 100 pieces up front to get things started we "should" be able to accomplish something like this. I mean if we could guarantee a dealer that they'll make a profit on a certain number of pieces why wouldn't they take the necessary actions to find the manufacturer to do this and supervise along the way? Y'all know these dealers on the forum much better that I do, is there such an individual with the right "stuff" to handle such a project? Another thing though, we'd have to come to an exact consensus on which model we would want produced. Since, as you state, a closed back PAM is easiest to rep. If we could say come to a consensus to rep a PAM005, then maybe we can finally own, at least, one "TRUELY ULTIIMATE" rep PAM. I've only been in the rep scene a short time and I'm frustrated to no end, if there are, and have been, others who feel the same, I don't see why we couldn't get something like this executed.

If we could possibly get enough "committed" memeber in on this, and find a trustworthy dealer, then maybe we could send deposits to get something like this moving. I would certainly buy several just to get "in" on a project like this. PAMman, I get your point and will look to say a PAM005 as my next rep. Thanks for the advice.

Thanks for the post PAMman. I appreciate your input. Opinions like yours is exactly what I was looking for. I don't know if you're familiar but I follow Ocean 7 closely and own their watch and have one on order. I love how the owner, Mitch, keeps everyon involved in the design and build phases. He is quite open about Chinese sourced parts and the fact what "Swiss made" really means. I think that if one person, with the right support, can form a successful new company, then why can't a group of comitted individuals commission an accurate rep.

^^^ Totally agree. I'm a big fan of Omegas and I don't think PAM's are in the same league as an Omega. Of course, this is MHO. When PAM's were not generally known I was into them heavily. I owned two gens, then when the popularity of them started rising and everyone and their sisters were sport'n one I decided to sell the two I owned. I also live in Los Angeles. I'm into dive watches and I tend to like unique models. When everyone is wearing the same watch as I am, I start to loose a bit of interest. Not to mention the $$$ they're asking for them is nuts! That's what drove me here. I like PAM's for their original style, but I like to wear my watches and didn't want to cringe every time I ding'd the sucker.

Great picture!

That is one of the best reps I've ever seen! Well, not that I've seen all that many, but from the number I've seen since getting into the rep world that one has to be tops! Thanks for sharing. Gives me motivation to build one of my own.

I say Speedy all the way. Beyong the monetary value, the Speedy has much more historical value IMO.

Thanks. I've actually been gravitating towards 111H or 111E as I've read that they're very good reps. Also, this is to all the experienced rep guys/gals out there. How difficult is taking apart a sandwich dial and re-luming it? From what I've seen, if you can successfully split the 2 pieces re-luming it should be easy. All you have to do is paint away, right? Unlike the sausage dials where you'd have to have mechanical precision to re-lume the numbers and indices.

I'd say the reason why there are 3 "grades" to a model is because not everyone lives in a economically developed nation. I'm sure there are a few individuals out there who live in a 3rd world nation that would love to have a nice watch on their wrist. For them $50 USD might be a lot.

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep it in mind. Attitude? Trust me there's no attitude, just frustration like it say at your 12. Thanks and I'm glad there are others who feel the way I do. I guess I sort of had the wrong idea from the start. I've owned a few gen PAM's and cringed every time I ding'd or scratched the thing, so I figured if I could create the ultimate rep then I could wear it without worries. Well, I guess I was wrong. I don't hang out with the risties anymore, but I still have a few good buddies who are semi risties and my test would be if they gave a rep of mine a thumbs up.

Wow, so nobody else feels the way I do? Am I gonna have to call this new rep journey quits and go buy another gen. PAM only to scream in agony every time I ding the damn thing on a door sill???

Very nice! I've got a Mil Sharky version sitting at home.

Ok, I'm still a noob in the rep world so give me a little break, but what do you have to do to get a decent rep that's quality??? I've already blew $450 on an Ultimate Fiddy from another member that turned out to be an ultimate bomb, and of course, the guy is all mums even though the watch was mis-represented. I also blew $600 on some other reps from online places, before I found this place, that is hardly what I expected. So that's another bomb. What's more, the more I read on the forums the more I get discouraged and feel that I'll never build an "Ultimate" PAM for myself. I see more people with problems than solutions. I mean how in the world are you supposed to find the right dial that fits the right case, etc., etc.??? Are the mods that difficult to do??? I'm thinking I should just buy some tools, which just I did, and try doing some of the stuff myself. At least if I f up I'll only have myself to blame. I keep asking myself... what do I need to do to buy/make/bribe someone for an ultimate PAM rep that I can feel confident enough to wear??? Ok, I'm done venting now. Sorry...

Sorry no pics, but I'm sport'n my daily wear. An Omega Planet Ocean on bracelet.

I've got a BR01-92.

I'll have to find a caliper, but if you're still interested I can check when I get home. I own a gen BR-01.

I'm game. This place has already gave me tons of valuable info. Put me down for $105.

Wow, very nice! Got any more info on this? Thanks for the post.

Just out of curiousity... wa the 111h from ufanta not very good? I've reading good reviews of it, but I'm wondering why you're gonna pass it up and buy one from Jos instead.

I just received a PVD 44mm case. I don't really know which model number it would be. One thing that bothers me though. When you open the CG, there is a portion of the CG lever that was not coated. Are all PVD'd cases like this?

Yes, I've got one from Invicta. The Invicta Corduba Russian diver. It's 51mm and it's a brute. Hate to say it, but it never get's any wrist time. I've owned several Invicta's in the past, and there are some quality models, but I'm not a fan of Invcita's at all now. I delved into them when I got my start as a WIS and have never bought another one since.

Well, I got away from PAM's several years ago and have been into mostly unknown makes and models of late. Recently the urge for PAM's have started back. Most of my watches are divers and they start at 44mm and go all the way up to 53+ so I think the 127 will fit just fine.

I can't wait. I don't recall being this excited for an arrival since my Omega PO. I'll make sure to post pics when she get's here.

Thanks!

I guess I've never noticed that the CG was inverted on the 127's. I don't think I've ever seen one in person. Gen or rep.