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Stepan Sarpaneva Stepan Sarpaneva was born in 1970 to a Finnish family with a long heritage of craftmanship. Son of jewellery designer Pentti Sarpaneva, Stepan was brought up to be a talented designer and craftsman. Sarpaneva first graduated from the Finnish School of Watchmaking and then moved to Switzerland to further his studies at WOSTEP. In 1994, he began work for several prestigious watchmakers including Piaget, Parmigiani, Vianney Halter and Christophe Claret. During those ten years in Switzerland, Sarpaneva specialised in the crafting of complicated timepieces. Perfectionism, enthusiasm and an infinite passion for watchmaking inspired Sarpaneva to create watches of his own. In 2003 he founded his own company in Helsinki, Finland where he individually handcrafts each watch at the workshop. High quality combined with unique design ensures that every Sarpaneva watch will last a lifetime.

Patience is the rep game .....but sometimes its so nerve-wrecking

But why from timesshop.net? never heard of them ....but i see the RWI there so guess its allright

I will definitively go to look at that 2 days

Now this I will certainly do Thats the winner

Thanks I do like modern art a lot...caixaforum sound slike a good idea

I am soon on my way to Madrid, Spain I'll be in the city itself from Friday to Sunday.....any recommendations to what is hot there this time of year? Museo Nacional Del Prado or Museo Nacional Centro de Arte Reina Sofía or ? Hope to see something by Salvador Dali there

Much too nice its scandalously pretty

Great input...but this watch is just to HUGE?

This Retrograde Date is on my wrist for the very last time ever

I could be wrong....

yes some parts could be China made....but still its an ETA Swiss watch movement A watch movement is considered Swiss if: the movement has been assembled in Switzerland and , the movement has been inspected by the manufacturer in Switzerland and; the components of Swiss manufacture account for at least 50 percent of the total value, without taking into account the cost of assembly. so.....maybe

I would not buy anything from this guy eShopreplica.net considering the poor description of the movements..is it a scam site??? Answer = yes but yes try asking the dealers here

excellent thread...and remember QC can never be good enough

This asian oldie just arrived .....finaly a watch so cheap (and with waves) that I dare to use it in the shower

You have a point there....Its a chinese gear for sure and they even put a a not so nice jewel on this gear.... ...so probably partly assembeled in china.....but probably enough parts are SWISS to be considered a swiss movement...my verdict http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&ETA_2824_2

For comparison,a typical unfinished SWISS ETA movement A more highly-finished movement used in Thomas Gref watches with Incabloc!! The ETA 2824-2 It is important to realize that there are about 4 different grades of the ETA 2824-2 movement available. The differences include the finish (rhodium or nickel, rhodium is more expensive and more durable), the decoration (many different varieties), and the quality of the components. T, and include many component upgrades such as high-grade balance wheels (Glucydur), balance springs, mainsprings, escapements, and balance jewels.

its SWISS just ask The Zigmeister

And ther is Paraflex too.....

http://3.bp.blogspot...loc+and+KIF.bmp Then there is also the KIF system.... Comparison between KIF and Incabloc The primary difference is the shape of the spring which holds the cap rubies (s) down. Both let you remove the cap jewel without totally removing the spring - it kind'a hinges up and out of the way without having to take it completely off. Most of the higher end brands use Kif: AP, PP, Rolex, VC, JLC, Chopard, etc. From the design Incabloc has just two contacts in the jewel bearing whereas Kif has three balance at each 120 degrees along the whole circumference for the jewel. Under strong shock impact, the Kif may survive better in maintaining the Ruby jewel bearing in a balanced position. As Kif using three-point contacts that it will have a self-aligned effect on the position of the bearing. Two point Incabloc may have a possibility to shift the bearing a bit to one side in case the spring is not in a co planarity or flat. So I think three points are best… two points is insufficient, and 4 points is not working, some what Like the Hi Fi System that only we put three Nails under each amplifier, we seldom put four.

So what the difference between Etachoc and Incabloc shock system? Incabloc Etachoc some old add For comparison,a typical unfinished SWISS ETA movement A more highly-finished movement used in Thomas Gref watches with Incabloc!! The ETA 2824-2 It is important to realize that there are about 4 different grades of the ETA 2824-2 movement available. The differences include the finish (rhodium or nickel, rhodium is more expensive and more durable), the decoration (many different varieties), and the quality of the components. T, and include many component upgrades such as high-grade balance wheels (Glucydur), balance springs, mainsprings, escapements, and balance jewels.

ETA has its own Etachoc :bangin: While this is with Incabloc

looks completely like a SWISS ETA 2824-2 to me

Actually your look like a SWISS Incabloc to me....but who knows The Incabloc shock protection system is the trade name for a spring-loaded mounting system for the jewel bearings that support the balance wheel in a mechanical watch, to protect the wheel's delicate pivots from damage in the event of physical shock, such as if the watch is dropped. It was invented in 1934 by Swiss engineers Georges Braunschweig and Fritz Marti,[1] at Universal Escapements, Ltd, Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. It is currently manufactured by Incabloc, S.A.[2] Similar systems are ETA's Etachoc, Kif, Seiko's Diashock, and Citizen's Parashock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incabloc_shock_protection_system http://www.incabloc.ch/incabloc_en.html File:Balance wheel Chinese movement.jpg

Yes its a shock to see HAMILTON copies....maybe the answer lies in the "discontinued"....so maybe it is sought after for that reason?....anyhow its a BIG watch