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This watch was going to be sold to Josh....and he asked the makere for new and corect dials and hands....the watch maker decided to leave the watch as it is.....its not the same as 'angus' watch!

'Angus' seadweller will be on the market in 3 weeks.....and is going to be superb!!

The price for this is about 2500$ with the rolex movement...

Did he say if a 2892 version was also on the way? As much as Rolex movement is cool - I don't have that kind of cash.

I got really excited there for a minute - but then...

Dial is off

Pearl - crap

Case thickness - too thin - crowded HE value

Nice bezel and crown position - of course. I hope that Angus's turns into reality some day.

One really cool thing - which I have been hoping for - is the use of the 2892 mvt. Solves the crown position problem

Probably an NDT fullfake. They lately seem to sell aftermarket cases with dials and gen movements... also gen crowns and sometimes gen bands.

Stay away - unless it is cheap.

Agreed. They pull the movement from other Rolex watches with the same movement, and then put the parts together into a hybrid (yeah - aftermarket case). Next thing you know - you have added $2000 to a $3000 datejust.

Does that "30" in the datewindow look right? It must be the angle and the datewindow offset. Looks pretty bold too. But that is certainly possible.

Yes - I think you are right. I did not see those white hands.

I think that dial is aftermarket. That makes this a non-legit sale.

I have never seen that "m" on a picture of a dial of a 1680 that was cleared as being legit.

Check out this e-bay listing. Since this topic has come up recently - the dial on this watch looks fishy to me. Kind of like the NDT dials.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Sub-Very-Rare-16...VQQcmdZViewItem

Picture:

The seller has all the makings of being legit - but this watch.....not sure. Opinions?

When I first saw the pics from the seller, I thought the same about the "m". So I asked the seller and some of our more expert members. The seller -he's got a good reputation in ebay- answered that they only restore genuine dials. Some members did tell me that it looks genuine for sure. Finally I looked for some genuine pics and I found some of them with the exact "200m" font. Who knows? When it arrives I'll take it to a Rolex AD to ask if it's gen or not.

If it turns out to be genuine - i would be as happy as you. I have had one sitting on my shelf for the last half year. It may be a "re-dial" which is basically a re-finish over a genuine base.

Again, good luck. Either way - it looks great.

Ptolomeo - great stuff. You are well on your way.

One point on the dial. I bought the same dial (same front and back markings). I have since been told that it is not genuine - but actually a rep dial. The giveaway is the "m" in "200m". I think it is a great dial - but just wanted you to know that I have been told it is not genuine.

I don't have mine in my watch. I bought another white sub dial (which is also supposed to be gen - but i am not sure on this one either) that is less conspicuous than red.

Good luck

I like the Cousteau - but not this color combo. I agree - the first was better.

Not to start the nitpicking - but look at that Pearl. It is not centered in the bezel marker. Yikes.

Wow - very nice work. How did you drill the log holes through on the Noob? I have drilled lugholes on MBW's where there is a pilot hole to use - but did you do thoe holes from inside the lugs?

It might have a Valj. 7750 in there but that ain't no standard ETA DW font - lacking in the serifs department

Very good Doc! You are correct, it is an older Eta/Valjoux - not the new 25J. Good eyes - it is the datewheel which came with the movement though.

Sorry for the confusion giorgio.

My watch is a first generation rep.

The back is of the rep.

The front is a genuine dial. Believe me, it is.

The 7750 is a genuine Eta with a standard ETA font.

As I said, i think that they must have made more than one version of this watch's dial. I compared my new dial with a genuine in the AD, particular noting the "8" and it was the exact same.

Yes - i am one of the many who is also eagerly awaiting Lello's datewheel project.

Also - not all replicas have "correct" window placement. For instance, some of our replica windows are cut in the wrong place and off a little here or there - and hence - that is why you can not get the date numbers to line up sometimes - even if using a genuine movement.

I will see if I can dig up the old dial so that you can compare.

Ok. Just trying to help here.

This is a picture of my dial - it is genuine. This watch also has a genuine ETA 7750 in it - hence the perfect date alignment in the genuine dial window.

Here is the back of my first gen if this helps.

Personally - that watch looks pretty good. Probably gen.

I would love to know if such a magical place exists.

That is why you should buy what evern Omega parts you can from Ofrei while Omega still lets you.

I live with my girlfriend in a nice apartment in the suburbs. We work hard and receive no spoiled handout's from our families.

I drive and pay for my '04 (bought brand new) Nissan SE-R SpecV. I've got a couple thousand dollars in NISMO upgrades (I/H/E/MM etc..). I love cars but its too expensive for me to build what I want right now. I downgraded to a less costly hobby!

I'm with you. I have a 96 BMW 328IS which I have thrown some serious cash into with Racing suspension, Super Charger, short shifter, new lights, blah blah blah.

But, then two kids came along.

So that car sits in a garage going nowhere. I had to come up with something else - much cheaper.

The problem is the spring in the crown that is supposed to engage and disengage the clutch is too weak and fails...which is why it's wobbly.

As far as I know, there is no way to open the crown up and replace the spring, replacing the whole crown is the only solution. The Omega's suffer from this same issue, especially the SMP Chrono, which is why I replaced mine with a gen.

RG

The Zigmeister - in replacing the crown on your SMP chrono - did you also have to replace the tube? If not - is it easy to get those crowns?

Don't.

It's a beauty but you will never wear it.

According to your Wrist Checks, I can't see you wear it at all.

I was very exited my self and the result is: it sits in it's gen box

Dude, that is beautiful.

Lots of people are having big expectations about that watch. They'd better do it right this time... I think people generally are completely fed up with sub-par Rolex reps. Such simple watches to replicate... such medicore results.

Completely agree. That said - we all are way more critical of any Rolex rep because it is the number one copied watch. Since even genuine Rolexes are immediately guilty of being reps until proven innocent, a rep has to be even that much more perfect. I mean - all of our super reps have a little flaw here or there - which if found on the Rolex sport watches - would immediately put them in sub-par status (unless they could be fixed - like an insert).

I have both the MBW 1665 and the MBW 1680 - so my Rolex appetite is satiated for now. However, I would jump on the Modern Sea Dweller in a heartbeat if they get it right. Those MBW are great - but boy does it take dilligence and moola to get them into acceptable shape.

Here's hoping we see a 2824 or 2892 version of the Sea Dweller instead of the ole 2836.

Thanks for sharing Bytor...

I own a lot of reps - but only those that I think are super reps - or those that could become super-reps.

I am eagerly awaiting the:

1. Rolex Sea-Dweller - Super Rep (but only if it is a super rep - or can take gen parts)

2. IWC Aquatimer - also has to be a super rep. I have an ETA 7750 waiting for it - if it is worthy.

3. ANY Panerai that can actually pass as a super rep. ( I have an 063 which is nearly perfect except for those "A's") There have only been two Panerai's which even have the right "A" in the dial lettering: the 089, and new Arktos and Northpole. However, both of those have problems which can not easily be solved. So here's to hoping that one of the super rep factories actually chooses a Panerai to make.

Before anyone says the typical "you are being too anal" comment --- that is the fun of this hobby for me - trying to make the watches perfect.

Right now (for today at least) my fav rep is my Omega 45.5 Ultimate PO with gen dial.

Lello - one black please.

Here is a thought on the ole Sub or Seadweller question. There seem to recently have been alot of watches coming out with the 2892 Asian copy. Would using this movement on a Sub or Seadweller actually place the crown in the right position? If so - should we suggest that to Angus. Of course - i am sure that the seadweller case is already set in stone.

OK - done. I will get the both AR'd on the next single sided run. Now - when is that happening....... :-)

Can't wait to see this one....