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Thanks for the help guys, I'm sending it back to Pam111 so he can fix it/swap it, I'll post here if I get any info on what was wrong to it can help others with the same problem. @The Zigmeistersumba - thanks for your reply to my PM, I answered today to say thanks, but it seems your PM is closed.

FOund the one I wanted : Link Calbre S - Quartz buy unique chrono mode that uses the main hands. That watch can't be repped, the only one ? Good reason to buy one eh ;-)

Thanks, I'll see how it goes, for some reason it's been ticking over the past two hours now, maybe something got "unstuck" ! I quite like the watch, I saw the gen at a show the other day, to die for...and unaffordable too at

Thanks again, yes rather disappointing, I can't see how Pam111 could refuse to take it back and fix it since its new, but the whole hassle of shipping and waiting is annoying. I don't know a local watchsmith who works on reps I could take it to and it seems like you don't think it's worth servicing it anyway, you'd just put in a better movement ? By the way I've put a picture of the watch below and I'm not sure Cousins ST18 would fit the date part ? I googled ST26 but I'm not seeing for sure it's the 2892-2 ? o

ST26 is the name of the Asian 2892-2 copy ? Thanks for your comments. It doesn't seem to be a power reserve problem because one small tap and it starts ticking again for X minutes, seems to be longer each time I tap it! Maybe some lubing issue or something rubbing? The fact that the seconds stop when the rotor is made to spun fast seems fishy too ? I suppose I'm going to be out of pocket again on the return costs :-( After having to send back 4 watches (one was the wrong model) to watcheden a couple of weeks ago and now this, I'm beginning to think you're better off getting a second hand rep from a member here!

Just got the the Vacheron Constantin Rep I ordered from PAM11, the ASIA 2892 FOR MAN PATRIMONY ROSE GOLD SILVER (link to add on RWG) with an Automatic Asia 2892-2 and for some reason it stops after a couple of minutes, about 5. I sent him an email about that problem but haven't heard back yet. At first I hadn't wound it, as I never do it with automatic movements, just shaken it a bit to get the rotor moving. Thinking it maybe needed some help I wound it and now it runs longer, between 30 and 50 minutes for my new tries, but ends up stopping again. Probably not much I can do on my end and since its brand new he'll probably ask me to ship it back, but is that a known problem on these movements ? One thing I noticed right off the bat too is that if I shake it so as to make the rotor turn really fast the seconds briefly stops. Never noticed that on any other automatic watch. Thanks for any help !

Nice to hear, I had ordered a white 33mm for my wife too, but they sent me a black one and she didn't like it, so since I had to send a couple of defective watches back I swapped it for Rolex GMT for my own use, oh well, will get her a swatch or something!

Thanks, but...Oops, pulled the trigger yesterday with PAM11, oh well...it's not like I'm going to be able to afford the gen anytime soon anyway! Was it a rep of the Patrimony Contemporaine ? I just noticed the rep had AUTOMATIC written whereas the gen doesn't. Rather OT here, but I was some nice classic Jaeger-Lecoultre watches today, fairly similar to this VC, a bit cheaper too. I was disappointed in the Patek Calatrava 5127 that I saw for the first time, pretty small and too much gold !

I ended up getting the GMT one from Watcheden, unfortunately the band wasn't properly attached to the case and I couldn't fix it so had to send it back. It seemed a tad small, and actually it is, the rep is 39mm and the gen is 41mm or 42mm ! The ceramic isn't really black, more greyish looking, not sure whether the gen's are like that too ?

Only have the T4Direct so I wouldn't know, can you try taking pictures ? Did you take the T4Direct it in brown ? I think the MBW is brown only?

Actually I just found it listed here too http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showto...mp;hl=patrimony ! Too bad they don't take paypal.

The link is now http://www.jpc8118.com/vc01015-patrimony-s...uto-p-4920.html Thanks a bunch, I saw the Patrimony watches at a show yesterday and they are absolutely superb, timeless watches ! As you say though, the value is in the detail on that type of watch, the hands are bent manually for instance, I doubt the reps are like that. Here is the gen : http://tinyurl.com/5tkmha rep : http://www.jpc8118.com/vc01012-patrimony-r...uto-p-4782.html

Got the Black 39mm 21J from Watcheden today, nice watch, working the links seems to be a pain though!

Did we ever find out where that strap came from ? You got an Asian version from Watcheden and absolutely love it! I weighed it, 68 grams too.

Hello - Pretty new myself, it's a nice place here ;-) Watcheden have it both as a 7750 http://tinyurl.com/5hcns6 and a Quartz same as 7750 http://tinyurl.com/5wgg2k

Thanks, yep tried that but like you say it's tiny and I don't have the tools. Need to look into the "Rodico". Anyway it had to go back for a dial change. If I damage the movement I'll get this one sent back to experiment !

Thanks, well that seconds hand was tough to get out, hours and minutes ok. Can't put the seconds back so will send it to time4direct who will swap the blue dial to black. I guess I didn't have the proper tools !

ah ok, might have been a bit heavy handed then...we shall see ! Also found the small button you press close to the crown stem to pop out the crown...now need to figure out how to remove the hand without braking them... In case you're wondering I'm trying to see if I can handle the swap of a dial on an Aquanaut !

Can this be done on a Asian 21J too ? Can't see any adjustment screw upon first inspection ? Ok it's not a screw you just need to move the arm, alright, let's see how my adjustment works...

A word of warning if you decide to remove the band, I just broke the little "teeth" on one side after removing the band to try to wash it. Can't source a blue replacement strap only black, not sure how it will look with the blue dial... @DemonSlayer - are you looking at getting the MBK 5165 version or the Time4direct (others may have it too) 5167 version?

So where's that PP forum ? ;-) I concur with all that's been said above, the time4direct version (is that where you got it too ?) of the Aquanaut is indeed very pleasant to wear, more so than my MBK Nautilus that I can't adjust properly to my wrist. It has a screw down crown too, what I read above seemed to imply only the MBK rep had that, maybe I misunderstood. I have the blue version which is great with jeans, black or brown would work better with a suit. It runs a bit fast so far, about +30s a day, but it may need to settle in as the previous owner didn't wear it much apparently. Here is a picture I just took :

Thanks for the pics, nice watch. I don't quite get the point of the papers and warranties though for a rep ? ;-) My second hand blue one just came in, originally from Time4direct on RWI, so it's like the OP's, not an MBK. Looks very nice, honestly I can't see any difference in finish with my MNK Nautilus, it's a thicker watch though but I suppose the gen is similar. The rubber band and clasp are convenient, I find the rubber a bit "hard" though.

I think the OP's is lke the one I'm expecting, based on the 5167, Corgi's MBK was based on the 5165 I believe, so slighly larget at 40mm vs 38mm based on what is on PP's site.

Very interesting, we really need a PP section ! Back to the Aquanaut, I'm expecting a second hand blue one to come in, originally from Time4direct on RWI, it's 1/4th the price of the MBK but has apparently good quality. Asian 21 of course, not an ETA, but I'm not sure that makes a big difference at the end of the day, my MBK Nautilus gains 15 seconds a day and my Tag Link 21j loses 10 seconds over 7 days!

Hadn't heard of that that on one so I looked it up, interesting... and What about that grey Golf watch : Or...the Aquaracer regatta with its pretty unique multiple modes (watch, chrono, regatta)