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From the pics, I think this really looks like something that is worth some consideration. However, working in the business, I find it difficult to pull off, considering the amount of gold content required, and the price it is projected to sell for. Although if it is as good as it seems, it's definitely worth buying. My biggest hang up is not proving that the gold is solid, but that it is indeed 14k. If someone would be willing to send someone a bracelet, or even and individual link (to be returned, of course), I would be more than glad to perform a scratch/acid test at work to confirm the karat. Just throwing that out there..

Hey gang, Just thought I'd throw up some pictures I snapped the other night. Hopefully these will come in handy for someone. Some of them didn't turn out so hot, so here are the best of the best. If you have a specific watch/angle you'd like to see, I'll do my best to get it up. Cheers, -310 EDIT: Originally these pics were double this size, but photobucket really resized them down. The original originals were about 4x this size, and very clear. If there is one you'd like the original of, I can email it upon request.

I've been wondering the same. I even came home on my lunch break today to buy a couple new toys!

Thanks everybody! It's starting collect the usual fine scratches, especially on the gold, which breaks my heart. I try to stay on top of it with a quick polish with the selvyt, but it's just not enough. I think before the summer months get here I'll break it down and spend some time infront of the buffing wheel..

Correct you are. It's projected that the (red/black, red/blue) GMT will be the newest collectors item, followed closely by the SeaDwellers. What gets me is that the SD is no more than $200 more than the SS/Blk Sub counterpart. Personally I like the SD more than the Sub. It's a little bulkier, and you just don't see many of them on the streets.

From the magazine, "Chronos." It's a bit small, but I think it may be readable. If it needs to be bigger, let me know, and I'll see what I can do.

Enjoy! The new GMT, which I'm madly in love with Some Oyster Datejusts Explorer II, LV Sub, No date sub Various TT subs, and the classic SS/Blk w/date. Yachtmasters.. SS/Plt, and a midsized TT GMTs, and a TT Daytona 18k wg Daytona on a black strap, meteorite dial More Datejusts

Yep, solid midlinks. A gorgeous piece, and one I'd love to have a rep of. Gen

Are you people serious? Do you really think this forum is going to be shut down, because one person (i.e., me) showed an AD a rep? If you think this is the first time this has happened, you're wrong. It's not like I'm giving them the address to this site, our dealers, lists of what's available, etc. I told them I got the watch from an ex-customer of mine who worked for GE, made yearly trips to China, and often brought back replicas. That's the back story they have. Please explain to me how that provides them with the ability to trace a single watch, out of millions, back to us/this forum. Coincidently, the GE employee story is a true one. I do have a client who is in that situation, and has shown me reps in the past. And no, Rolex has no such policy for AD employees to report reps in place. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If you knew how much work went into operating and running a high end jewelry store, you would know that the last thing on our to-do lists is contacting Rolex about someone possessing a replica. That's laughable. Really, think about it. Do you think that Rolex relies on individuals employees of worldwide ADs to keep them, a global corporation, up to date on fakes? You all are dramatically overreacting. The situation with the celebrity owned Porsche in quite understandable, and incomparable to this one. That was a private individuals car, who had an expectation of privacy with regards to his name and property. Please explain to me what personal or sensitive information I have divulged. And yes, I posted pictures of a customers watch. How is that any different than looking up a picture of a 1680 online? Did I post the serial number? No. The owners name? No. Social security number? No. Now I'm glad to answer any reasonable question you all have about genuine Rolexes, and general procedures. I've been a member of these forums for years, and take offense at the thought of potential harm to this, or any other rep forum.

Thanks for all the kind words, guys. This new place is a lot more work than the previous, but it's well worth it. I actually brought in my TT sub rep from josh last yesterday and passed it around. Everyone was cool with it, and got a big kick out of it. The biggest flaws they pointed out were the color of the dial/bezel, and the boldness of the font on the dial. Most agreed that it would pass from around 5 feet, and most didn't call it out until after handling it. We all agreed the quality was quite nice, and one guy even said that unfortunately it could very easily be passed off as a gen to an uneducated buyer. Now, onto your questions 1. Do they tell you how to treat customers wearing reps? Nope. There are no guidelines or procedures for this. Posed with the situation, no one really thought it would have been a big deal.... unless the customer wanted to add genuine Rolex accessories on a rep that they were sold, believing it was a gen. It really comes down to tact, and the personality of the salesperson you end up with. I guarantee there are salespeople out there at other ADs that would pick up the holier-than-thou attitude, and scoff at a rep. Gladly, that's not the case where I am. And like I said, most got a kick out of the high quality reps that are surfacing these days, but believe me, there's always a give away. 2. What do you do when a potentially dangerous or suspicious customers asks to see a very expensive watch? Good question, as this is a difficult situation. Our store is very secure, and requires customers to be "buzzed" in while on camera. This is a large deterrent to would-be theives, as the door also locks behind you after entering, making a quick escape impossible. Not to mention you're on camera from the time you get out of your car. Once in the store, we do have our security protocol to adhere to, but unless you're posing an imminent threat somehow, you'll get to see whatever you wish. 3. How many high end watches do you actually sell on a weekly, monthly basis? Tough to say, as it fluctuates throughout the year. I'm not sure of the number of sales around the holiday season, but I know it's significantly higher than other times. Our store does very, very well with the ladies Rolexes around Christmas... especially TT DJs. From looking at sales/appraisal records, I'd have to say we average 3 to 4 high end watches throughout the non-holiday months. 4. What kind of discount do you get? That's really going to vary from one store to another, but Rolex does offer a ONE time opportunity to buy a watch at 30% BELOW cost for AD employees! A one year tenor must be accrued, however. I think that's a very generous offer, but there's not as much mark up on these things as some may believe.. 5. How low are you allowed to get the price for a customer who wants to haggle? Not that low. Seriously. We have no control over the percentages we can discount Rolexes. Rolex tells us what we're allowed to do, and we can't do a penny more unless you're buying in "bulk". On some watches (SS/Blk sub, LV Sub) no discounts are allowed at all. And I've seen the waiting list for the SS Daytonas. Wow. All I can say is good luck! We expect to have the new Milgausses within 8 weeks, and an all SS anniversary GMT II that's already spoken for. The discount levels actually depends on which watch you're looking at. There's a very little margin on the all stainless pieces, so don't expect any more than 10%. And remember, customers aren't automatically entitled to a discount. The decision to discount is based on a lot of factors, including time of year, production, demand, current ads that are running in the media, individual store history, etc. So the bottom line, if you play your cards right, you might see 10% off SS. Perhaps a little more on a TT or all gold piece, but not much. And remember, cash talks.

Thanks cs! It was only half of the name, but I know there some crafty people floating around. Of course I plan on doing nothing to compromise my employment. There are many gen owners (and future owners!) in this community, and unfortunately not everyone's local AD has a very helpful staff. I hope to help remedy that situation.

...at a Rolex AD. It's the same one I bought my TT sub from a couple months ago, and discussed a potential employment opportunity with. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=60882&hl= I'm absolutely thrilled, and have been there for about two weeks. It's amazing. We do a lot of Rolex service work, and I simply can not tell you guys how many TT Datejusts with champagne dials I've seen in the past two weeks. The average service seems to be running $550-$600, but the watches look GORGEOUS when they return. It's well worth the money, and the one year warranty. Today a gentleman brought in a 1680 for service (loses time, stops intermittently), and Rolex no longer service these...among other older models. We have other watchmakers we deal with that will do the work, however. I snapped a couple pics of it, please forgive the quality, or lack-there-of. I also took a quick picture of the Rolex case, but only got the gents. The ladies section is equally as large. The 1680 is an amazing watch in person, and this particular one was in immaculate condition. I'll try to get better pictures when it returns, hopefully with a real camera! I didn't get to deal with the man personally, but hopefully I can catch him when he picks it up, as I would love to offer him something for it. Anyway, as usual, I know it's been a while since I've posted, but I haven't forgot about you guys. Now know that you have someone on the inside! I'm glad to answer any reasonable question you all may have. http://www.rwg.cc/members/style_emoticons/...ult/biggrin.gif

My gen 07 tt sub has the sleeves as well. i wonder if they serve as some kind of bushing to maybe reduce wear over time(?).

Wow! Fascinating project! The date wheel overlay is impressive, and the black rehault did wonders.. not to mention the varnish on the dial. I'd love to have such a convincing vintage like that. I've kind of felt the 5512 itch coming on.. I guess we'll see how long until I have to scratch it.

Wow!.... Good eye! And again, as someone else noted, it's amazing how great of an impact a small change like that can make.

We've GOT to have pics when you get them in! I'd love to see the Masterpiece.

Thanks to everyone for all the kind words. I'm definitely feeling some buyers remorse, but mainly due to the price. It was hard for me to rationalize this big (but at the same time small) of a purchase, but I know it's something I'll keep for a long time. Additionally, I don't have to worry about swimming with it in the summer, the lume, gold fading, inaccurate dial/bezel colors, CGs, etc. Removing my "diving watch" before jumping in the pool always seemed a little unusual! @Victoria - Yes, the plastic card is replacing the glossy paper certificates. It seems a wise move, as the cards should hold up better over time. I love the gloves too. They're certainly a unique piece of memorabilia.

Liked the looks of the 111h today with the suit and shirt combo, so thought I'd snap a quick pic...albeit with the phone. Sorry for the quality.

I love this watch for the recognizability, and the crisp, clean color combination. These pics were taken when it was new, and the second set of pics from tonight, over two years later. As with my other ETA reps, zero timing issues and hasn't missed a beat. Box set pieced together from ebay, watch came from josh. With my old TT Sub rep Two years later: ...and still it's never been called out, even with its crooked "V" hour markers

Thanks delta. It's actually a Bob strap, but it's had extra holes less than professionally added, and has generally seen better days. I bought it second hand for next to nothing. I really like the #5 strap you had for sale.. I wish I had seen it sooner.

Just thought I would revive this thread as an example of the longevity of reps. I've worn this watch at least three times a week, all through our humid summers. I've had it two years now with *zero* timing issues, and only an occasionally reshaping of the folding leaves in the clasp to tighten it up. This is still the favorite of many of my friends.

Mainly a Rolex guy, but I always feel kinda special when I wear this one out. Center pin fix and lume done by The Zigmeister about a year ago, still looks amazing. I also have a chocolate strap with white stitching, but I don't have any pics. Enjoy.

I'll second Rasta's classy comment. Love the dial. No one would ever suspect it to be anything but 100% gen.

Absolutely gorgeous. Anyone would be proud to have those laying around!

So, I haven't posted here in ages, and feel bad about it. But I really haven't been too active in the watch community for quite some time, as life has its way of deciding what we will be spending our time (and money!) on. I've had no new news on the watch front, until the past week. As some of you may know, I do work in the jewelry business, and am only second to one in seniority in my store, and one of three who are DCA certified in diamonds and precious metals, which I am quite proud of. I love the business, despite its troubles at times. Any business will have its highs and lows. Anyway, I've always been a rep collector. I started in 1999 with a horrid two tone blue Submariner. I loved that watch, despite how cheesy it was. The worst canal street rep one could imagine. Just, horrid. I found this site around 2005, and began paypal-ing money overseas like crazy. My collection quickly grew to fulfill my relative short wish list; a better two-tone submariner, an all stainless/white dial Datejust, a newer black dial Turn-o-graph, and a Pam 111h. The TT sub was my favorite by far, but being a rep, still left me wanting more. It was nice on the wrist, and fooled *literally* everyone who looked at it. Even people I work with who have sold Rolex. Scary, isn't it? However, when removed from the wrist, it removed all doubt of being even slightly credible. Still, I was never called out. Fast forward to the beginning of this past week. I stopped by one of two local ADs, both of which I am very familiar with and know one of two associates at each. None of them know about my reps, just as a precaution. I talked with one salesman (although I hate that word), who has truly become a friend over the past two years. As a matter of fact, he now has a copy of my resume, so who knows what the next few months may bring... With college graduation two weeks away, Christmas quickly approaching, and a birthday next month, I decided to treat myself. Long story short, here she is. Words simply cannot describe it. My God, the colors are electric in person, and no photograph could ever do them justice. The fit and finish blows even the nicest of my modded reps out of the water. The sweep is smoother than my best ETA, the color of the gold, the feel of the crown screwing/unscrewing, the tightness of the clasp, the lack of rattle in the bracelet, EVERYTHING. It's gorgeous. The new wave box is also quite impressive. The texture of the cloth, the tightness of the hinge, the embossment on the cardboard, just... wow! A couple things about the newer watches.. They are no longer being shipped with green hologram stickers. I'm sure this has been discussed before, though. Also, there are no more paper warranties. The new style is a credit card sized card with all the information on the watch, AD, and the owner. Also included are revised booklets, and a new stiff cardboard wallet. Also, the subs are no longer being shipped with the famous (and useless) anchors. I looked forward to hanging one from my rearview mirror, but I'll live. I did the best I could with the pics, and my limited photography equipment, knowledge, and skills. I'd be glad to take any other pictures from requested angles, weights, measurements, etc that may be helpful to this community. Also, my friend/salesperson slid me the extras in the picture.. The ROLEXROLEXROLEX polishing cloth/hankerchief(?) and a brand new pair of Rolex gloves used anytime they are removed from the cases at night, or set up in the morning before opening. Most impressive. And they fit like a...well, you know.