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To bad the signature is on the dial and not on the crystal like the gen Thats a huge mistake according to me.

True, i just came back from there! They have a really nice Hublot store too And i just missed that skypark. Came a little late

I hope you guys means customs, right? Because bringing fakes is probably illegal in most European countries, but i think most customs don't care if you don't got 20 of the same watch. They won't probably care if they understand the watches are souvenirs or your own. Because what the hell does the security have to do with what you bring as long as its not a danger to flight safety.

Here is the genuine. Better pics. http://www.jameslist.com/advert/129831/for-sale-hublot-ayrton-senna I'm just curious how the hell they missed the other dial with the green and yellow paint on? Other than that, the fake looks extremely much like the genuine!!! I have one btw!! LOVE IT!!

Thanks again! Did you take the train from luohu? Because i dont know how many train stations there are in that area or where you take it to guangzhou

Cool guys. It sounds really interesting. I do know the chances are really small that i'll find anything. Ive been reading this forum a bit so i'm not completely off:). How long train ride is guangzhou from Luohu (because i'll be staying there). And if i'm not mistaking, the watch market city is very close to the guangzhou train station (how long walk?) And how can i contact a dealer since i'm so short on time? And also i really dont know which dealer is located where... If i could get a phone nr, i could call them from shenzhen. Thanks!

Hey everyone. I'll be in Shenzhen this friday to monday and wondering where there might be a chance of finding good copies there if i ask around and i'm lucky. Is it easier in Guangzhou btw? /Raptor

I'll be near guangzhou very soon. Should i just stick to the shenzhen watch markets instead? It would be an adventure going to guangzhour for the watches /Raptor

It sounds as if i should just not go to guangzhou because of the watch markets there not being really good. Because i won't be far away (Hong Kong + Shenzhen). And i'd love to do an adventure going over there

I know Rolex does. Anyone else? I heard breitling just made their own movement. B01 or something. RAptor

Yes mate i know! I was thinking more of the chopard does not have ETA Valjoux 7750 as native movement. They have something inhouse, right? Replacing their inhouse with the ETA7750 is not good? Raptor

I'm really up for a Chopard Mille Miglia GT (GMT) XL. But those are replicated with an Asian 7750. That cannot be good since the native movement is not ETA? Raptor

What is the original movement in the rolex daytona? I know their latest daytona has an in-house movement. But what about the previous models? Raptor

Maybe we can help each other by finding a dealer that works well with Swedish members

My favourit is Chopard Mille Miglia GT XL Chrono Speed Black 3 Its a 44 mm Chopard MM Raptor

As the topic mentions, is it possible to identify Sapphire and Mineral Glass (Synthetic Sapphire)? If possible, how? Regards Raptor

Damn thanks for the replay. That is an excellent replay and i think it will help many. Raptor

Damn i was thinking of ordering from China with pam111 to Sweden. I've ordered over 100 times before from china/HK but never got any problems however this is a different situtation with copied brands. pam111 guarantees delivery. Could i trust that? What if customs confiscate it say 3 times. Also, are there only 2 european dealers ? Eurotimez and PT? Regards Raptor

Most youths knows about Breitling today in Sweden. I think its getting the hottest brand among the youths. However, which is considered to be the most luxurious brand is rolex ofcours. Raptor

I've been a member for a while now and i understand a lot but not everything. What i don't understand is that some dealers like Joshua has got a webshop, but others don't. Is the idea to ask each seller if they have a specific model or send them mail asking them what they have? Some list items as topics. Is that what they have or are they just demo topics while they have way more in their storage? Some even got a site with pictures and article numbers but no prices? Is the idea to ask the dealer for the prices by mail? Could someone please clarify this. Regards Raptor

Thanks Toad. Your answer answers my second question which was how much they buy the replicas for. It really doesn't matter since dealers have more or less monopoly on good stuff (and other reasons). And the price is probably the manufacturing price. This is very interesting. Raptor

So what you are saying is that those watches we buy from dealers here for >$200 cost them around $30? I would love to know if thats the case. That won't frighten me to buy from dealers here though since i need the light QC. I'm a total n00b. Raptor

Thank you very much for the replays guys. I have read a lot before i made my first post and i'm trying to figure out a couple of things. One of them is, how does the dealers/collectors here get a hold of these watches? They do get them from china, right? Do they get them directly from "their" favourit factory? Do they themselves order reps according to their specifications? Anyone knows how it works? Raptor