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Sorry I can't help about the dealer, but I may add that also OP 6556 (and possibly 6557) should be ok. May I ask if you saw with your own eyes the gen with those numbers? I also would like to add them into the next release of my PAM table.

When you peel off the painter tape, this does not leave a neat border/design of the paste on the markers. I already tried it on hands, it does not work.

That is exactly what John and I said some time ago. And really thanks for those specs! I think I may add that the inner layer is 1.4mm thick. Today I tried to disassemble and reassemble (with a different cyclops) a sandwich crystal. Disassembling went good. Reassembling went a mess. I used a low-viscosity UV glue that promised not to lave air bubbles between the two layers. It was true, but I got tons of (oh what a cohincidence!) Newton rings. Disassembed again. The outer layer (it was glass too, not sapphire - a rep sandwich crystal) got scratched. Tryed to polish it. Ruined it. Turning to a Jimmy's crystal with a watchmen cyclops. The minute hand touched the cyclops. Got nervous. Replaced the watchmen with a chieftang's. Touched again. Got more nervous. Tried a different case (Jimmy's). Inserted a Davidsen crown tube - it fitted. Inserted the bezel -- ruined. Got even more nervous. Back to the sandwich crystal. Found a replacement for the outer layer (a thin glass from another watch). Reassembled again. Fallen on the ground and broken. Inner and outer layers. Better staying in bed today. Going to the bay to get a new Jimmy's bezel and some new idea now.

I think that you are right, Stephane, and I'll behave accordingly since now.

Sure, I would love doing that. Just PM me a photo and her phone number and/or address.

Just be warned that someone might - get scared by the chance that this thread is spotted by someone at their home / office / asylum / whatever; - find this topic offensive to women / men / watches / whatever; - think that you are acting on masturbatory purposes. I might have not been able in covering the whole spectrum of the possibilites, but you might find them sooner or later.

Really thanks, Brian! But I have been somewhat wrong exactly on this occasion. See below. Today I had my 1st attempt in replacing a sandwich crystal + recessed (and weak) cyclops with a normal crystal + stronger cyclops. It went a catastrophe. WARNING! Watches with a recessed cyclops may be designed that way because they have no room above the uppermost hand to accept anything thicker.

I hate to say 'no'

232 is 47mm. Crystals for 47mm models are 44mm diameter. Ofrei's ones are 32mm max. Not even enough for a 44mm model.

I too just received mine, and it looks gorgeous. The watch is currently dismantled for cyclops and crown renewing too, but as soon as I'll have it reassembled I'll post pictures. (To Finepics: I tried to send you my confirmation and thanks about receiveng the DW, but your PM box is full. I hope you see this here).

!!! !!! Perhaps we could ask Admin to open a new section Replica Crown Group. As for Lello, I have only 2nd gen (I discovered the [old] RWG when the 1st generation was over yet). But as for Davidsen, I have 1st and 2nd gen, and even PVD! Too bad they need their own special tube, and Davidsen's PVD looks different from Palp's PVD.

...Just be sure in advance that the cyclops actually can be removed and it's not an all-in-one with the crystal. I have even been able to break a sapphire crystal that way.

As sort of a crown collector (Lello's, Palpatine's, Davidsen's, Homer's... and naturally several reps) I am considering offering something on these ones, though... I just would like to inspect them with my own eyes... Definitely not gen, but I am curious about their quality -- or lack of... Just, I don't want to get involved in a bidding war with (at least) other members here. Anyone else considering bidding in the auction?

As the fellows already said, just a very good glass. Top-notch glass, I may add. Hard to scratch, and with the same heat conductance of sapphire. Most likely, some rich-in-metal glass. I suggest you jump on the offer by chieftang. Jimmy's crystals are over now just like Jimmy's crown guards...

If it already is broken in pieces, I suppose you may simply remove the pieces with pliers and tweezers. You just need to remove them from the teflon gasket on which they seat, taking care not to break them in even more smaller pieces...

I just asked the seller which caliber and which kind of coating the black one is, PVD or black-oxide or what, and he replied: 'I think auto caliber, black oxide'. Definitely not genuine. Never heard OP black-oxide their crowns.

If so, those two watches are likely to mount the so-called 'sandwich' (or 'layered') crystal with the 'recessed' cyclops. In order to get a confirmation about it, just ask your watchsmith whether the cyclops looks like settling in a hole within the inner layer, not bulging out from the inner surface. If yes, then things are this way: 1. The rainbow effect is very likely due to poor, low-quality glue between the two layers. Less likely, it maybe that some lubricant has got trapped between the two layers in the manufacturing process. 2. You can't replace a sandwich crystal with a normal crystal, as this would lessen the rehaut between the cyclops and the date window, thus greatly reducing the date magnification. 3. Instead you have to disassemble the whole crystal (outer layer, inner layer, and cyclops) and reassemble it with a proper glue. That can be done by heating the crystal. Edit: actually, you may replace a sandwich crystal with a normal crystal, but you'll also have to replace the cyclops with a stronger (higher mag power) cyclops -- after verifying that there is room enough above the uppermost hand for the new bulging cyclops. The 199 should have a 7mm diameter cyclops. In this case, one of the new chieftang's cyclopses is perfect for the need. The 024 should have a 6mm cyclops if it's A-E series, 7mm if F-series onward. In the first case you should get someway, somewhere, a 6mm 'watchmen' cyclops; else, a chieftang's cyclops. Replacing the sandwich crystal with a normal crystal + stronger cyclops is much less hassle than disassembling and reassembling the whole thing. And you also get some improvement in date magnification.

Congrats!!! Which moddings are you going to perform on the gen?

I don't rely on simple inspection of pics, but on the official OP catalogues descriptions -- which I happen to own from 2002 onwards (1997 onwards for special editions).

Thanks Brian. So, in the end even I had come to learn something about AR.

SS models I know for sure they have polished case and brushed CG are the 111, 112, 113, 114, 115 (these G onward) and 219. Other possible (but unverified) models are the 000, 001 and 005. I just wonder why you did not declare which model you were talking about.

Definitely. Absolutely. archibald: our 21Js are in your hands.

I love them! But... 'standard rep straps'? Even the brown one??

Yes, all the datewheel and datewheel-sticker makers here (Finepics, archibald, Lello) had them vectorialized.

Also thanks all other relumers here for their overwhelming responses.