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labor is dirt cheap in china, i can have a house built in china for 100.00, good god.

you don't think that jandrew is over priced? i can buy a v2 skyland on ss for 210.00. go check their sites and you will have your answer on tooling costs, deflated dollar bla bla bla. they are greedy, thats all. if the factory sets the price like they want everybody to believe then why can i buy these same watches so much cheaper elsewhere? because they are lying to you guys thats why.

dave, d's thoughts about if he wanted to sell watches or not had nothing to do with our decision to remove josh and trusty from trusted dealer status, that was solely based on their business practices. d had no say so in the matter, i still haven't figured out what he is apologizing for.

there is no doubt of that.

i didn't see it but if he has i will go over there and ask my questions if you guys want me to. i am just curious as to exactly what he has and exactly what it takes to buy it from him. i can always get tw best but i will deal with someone in this country if the money is right.

since my tt dj has a t swiss t dial the open 6 and 9 is correct for it. like i said, it is a rep of a late 70's/80's tt dj. trust me bother, just show us the pictures and we will tell you what you have.

i only want to see the pictures that prove that it is a tw best and talk about real worth, thats all. if he has these watches in stock it should only be a matter of minutes before he can fulfill my request. i am not slamming him in any way shape or form.

i have a tw best poly design tt dj from ideal that i bought about 5 years ago. i wear the crap out of it, the gold has never faded and it has never been worked on serviced or anything else. it is the best rep i have. i have held it in my hand along with a gen tt dj and it is very good. it is a excellent example of a t swiss t 70's/80's dj with a hand painted blue vignette dial and a real eta movement, not a copy. now, with all that said it is a tw best and we all know those dj's rock the house all the way down to the open 6 and 9 date fonts. lets see a picture of that, thats what i am talking about then lets talk about normal pricing for such a watch.

ok, i will bite. remove the bracelet from a tt sub and a tt dj and show us the engraving there. are they tw best watches from taiwan? do they say poly or polex design between the lugs? if they do they are something i would talk money about as long as it is a better price than i already pay for these watches. otherwise i have no motivation to give someone else my business. show me what you have.

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when i get this watch it will be the blue dial, i have a brand new gen blue strap and buckle waiting for it already.

thank you pugs, i am at work and in a litte bit of a hurry. the minute i sit down at my desk i get called away again. Griselda Blanco is exactly correct.

sorry man it's what comes to my mind every time i see somebody say "remember it is an illegal hobby" the scenario i posted is how it goes down in an illegal situation and everybody here knows it. it is never, "it's ok because it is illegal". this is how it really goes down. google griselda blanko and read how it works in the real world when somebody gets screwed big time in an illegal business. she served her time and was deported back to columbia and now no one knows where she is. she may be dead or maybe not but there are people everywhere looking over their shoulder all day long waiting to get hit because of it. jandrew and co. keep doing this because they don't think their will be any retaliation but they are worried enough they are reading this thread to see what kind of damage control they will consider. so far it is a raffel at rg

i guess the "this hobby is illegal" comment is lost on me. in the usa importation and selling is illegal. buying and owning is not. remembering these things mean nothing to me. even if you want to use that as a way to apologize for their actions remember, if somebody sells a kilo of cocaine and it turns out to be baking soda the seller will face a fate much worse than loosing that customer, he will loose his life and probably his families lives if the buyer was griselda blanco.

oh i see. i thought you were talking about the links, i haven't looked at his site. i didn't know he had one, if it is that slow he needs to do some work on it.

the only way to know for sure is have to movement looked at by a pro. the copies even have eta stamped on them.

as far as i know ruby is the only one to put it in writing that her watches have a 6 month warranty. it is on her web site.

send him a picture of what you want. he can get anything the cartel has and he sells wholesale in quantity.

well, obviously it will be up to the general membership that calls this forum home to keep the topic alive and not let it die. i can tell you at rwi the topic will stay very much alive and well. at rg it gets shot in the head and buried the second it is mentioned so we can all figure out how long it will last there. they started having a damage control raffle there yesterday.

only if the membership lets it happen.

i would like to take this opportunity to say no dealer pays rwi a fee for having a section there. their sections are provided to them from rwi for free as a service to our membership.

here is my gen, sorry it has some lint on it in the pictures. i should have cleaned it better. lol

they would, we have the money and they want it. they have watches we can get from other sorces. it's simple really.

are you high? i can't beleive they let you talk that way here. so much for moderation. this is the kind of crap that got you removed from rwi.