rolli

all dials in swiss oem stnadard will be made.

preV in non-matches.

preA in non matches

all requirements will be considered

2015 will be a year full of joy and happyness

as i already stated the 201a + 202a are all ready , in january they get the indices filling.

they look amazing.

all the best

rolli

dear all,

currently the preV basic dials 201a + 202a  are ready to send them to rc tritec for indices filling

in non-matched color.

my plan is for the christmas days to finish the next vector graphics for further dials

with our graphic design engineers.

so.. it would be nice you would give a selection of dials which you would like to see and have.

please post your statement.

many thanks

rolli

that's absolutely awesome.... top notch..

all the best

rolli

perfect

regards

rolli

055 swiss oem dial is in the making.

regards

rolli

Rolli what do you mean?

the swiss oem 172 is in the making, but a small production number.

original steel hands blued by flame or oven will be made later.

only one swiss company can make the blued hands.

that's why the dials comes first.

regards

rolli

got the original surface paint

rolli

additional information,

i use swiss oem dial maker, that means with oem certificate, this means also they work only on almac watch making fast running cnc machines,

guarantees the highest precision work.

these dial maker have so many swiss customers that they have a long waiting list for the delivery time.

but when i order first sample dials to check the indices fattness, which would be the best for 201a + 202a, then  it goes not fast,

and for the rest main batch dials i still have to wait for 2 month minimum,

then all these dials are made with so many singele steps, and there is no machine which produced dials, no it is necessary also an employee.

but the employees have a lot of customers working on their desc, that why all customers with the single production steps have to wait till it can go for the next step.

and this step by step.  and it could happen, that the galvanic bath is full for the next 3 - 4 weeks, so my dials have to wait.

normally it is not necessary talk about, but some of the members not seem to understand it, why the delivery time is sometimes longer.

so........ please patience

everything will be fine.

regards

rolli

036 are completly ready also with final lettering print, i am waiting to have them here.

082 are ready for long time, but i said i will post both together in two separate threads.

prices known when i have calculated all costs.

201 + 202a  in production the both first sample dials will be ready hopefully soon.

to check about the indices fattness.

055 bown dials and 172 tantalium are in the making beginning phase, vector graphic already done.

also the PreA series will follow,

and all dials in swiss oem quality made by an swiss oem dial maker.

i have not the wish to make the dials with hectic and stress, so when it's ready then they are ready.

the same like with some german cars, you have to wait when you buy a great german car.

everybody has to wait.

all the best

rolli

all swiss oem dial poduction need exreme longer than shit asia dial production,

and all intelligent guys know that.

swiss is the best but need longer,

also because there are all top watch brands they want the best swiss oem dials for all the old and new series.

in swiss there are a few top oem certificate dial maker.

and standard is, that the largest orders comes first and then so on,

if you would buy more 100 dials then we would come on a earlier position for the production.

and you forget  that also all the vector graphics and very sensible detail work need time.

but only the super intenlligent guys know how long it could need.

or you pay 60.000 dollar and you don't need to wait.

regards

rolli

from D-serie and following series and some C-serie , panerai made thicker indices,

the rep indices are too thin.

regards

rolli

yes.

when i have the 036 ready and in my hand i will start an own thread here with 036 + ß82 together,

the 201 + 202 in production and when they are completely ready then also the 201 + 202 topic.

also the vector is ready for the brown 055, and maybe it could start short dated.

regards

rolli

never too late.

regards

rolli

on monday will start te pre vendome production,

so no pictures yet.

the first thread with a lot of pictures will be the oem swiss 036 together with the oem swiss 082

with all detail pics.

all the best

rolli

Rolli is Back!!!  Very excited to hear from you.  Time to sell some parts so I can have pockets full of money for your great dials.  Please tease us with some Pre-V dial pictures! 

hi,

i will post the 082 dials together with the 036 when the 036 are ready , circa in 14 days.

regards

rolli

Great news Rolli, I would love to replace the dial in this build with your 082!

082 ready, 036 almost ready , next week they get the final lettering print,

a thread will follow.

201 + 202 dial production starts on  25. august. vector graphics is since 1 month completely ready.

and  i will start parallel also the preA series.

all the best

rolli

dials are since 1,5 month ready, but had not much time to make perfect photos. but they will come.  for this i need mood and time.

a few are sold. this is a high light.

rolli

the 082 dials are ready for sale.

rolli

I agree Rolli, the printer did SD no favors on his project. FGD and Southy had provided a great effort with their dials and the pad printing was far superior to these. SD's was on track to be of really good quality as well, too bad.
Your new dial has incredible detail in the reproduction. Looking forward to the final product with lume installed.

here you see how slim have to be the lettering print.

on your dial it looks too fat.  pre vendome dials have a slim letter line thickness also.

that's why the vector graphic designer has to control it and to draw it, then the cliche brings a toleance and the pad print pressure brings a tolerance

and all tolerances makes the letter line thicker and you have a fat lettering on the dial.

it's not as easy as you think.

regards

rolli

hahaa..

you have eagle eyes.

yes on the left it is the gen one.  the sapphire was burst in thousend pieces and damaged the gen dial which is on the left.

so i could buy it, and the dial maker saw in this moment, oooohhh this will be a difficult process.

midnight blue with vertical brushing lines in the right deepness and sharpness will be a hard challenge.

and after three galvanic series for trash he got it.

this galvanic process is totally different to all other galvanic processes and colors.

this midnight blue change to fast the color to black with rainbow effects, so how long was the best diving time before it change the color

and as result deep midnight blue. it was only possible with many chrome salts ( it's a deposit process )more than normal.

but the dialmaker made a perfect job.

in a ti case it is an eye catcher and for sure a daily beater.

here additional pics before lume filling.

7 dials are complete ready.

all the best

rolli

Rolli it looks like no one wants to weigh in. I will since it's been all day with no takers...

I think the one on the left is the gen due to the damage along the bottom left and top right sides of the dial where it would be in contact with the case. It also has some aging where the base of the dial is bleeding through in different places all over. It would be very obvious under the crystal. This could also be why a gen dial would be pulled and replaced. It may be the only affordable way Rolli was able to source one for comparison. The one on the right has no surface imperfections and looks like a new gen spec Rolli dial.

I am no expert but that's my bet.

this is a professional print.

one side is a genuine dial

rolli

rolli's 201a and 202a  comes direct after the 036 and faster  as thought.

for 1:1 oem swis standard and quality you have to use a oem dial maker with the top computer controlled digital machines also for print.

it regulae the print pressure too and the cliche is depending from the perfect accurate vector graphic.

i self studied and used a training course for vector graphic. i studied adobe illustrator and i am perfect to work with it.

but i use a graphic designer with a profession experience of more than 20 years.

i studied it to control all details, including the print details and materials etc etc.

only berlac AG paint from the pint group 043 baking varnishes with the right viscosity for lettering print makes a perfect print.

on the vector graphic must be a little trick to get the right print cliche, that the final print is inthe perfect final letter line thickness.

informations from the pad print machine factory would be very important and from a pad machine printer with master certificate 

are the informations more than helpful. but it must be a printer for high end oem dials .

to study different fields can be never wrong.

greetings

rolli

The last posting from StephDexter is 3 months ago.

 

I guess I'm glad I walked away from this earlier on.

 

The 203a dial that you have there looks really good grimlocktime.

 

Ogladio, I'm a bit surprised that the lume work there on your 202a "passed the muster" as we say. It looks lacking unfortunately.

 

And whoever the poster who made the photo with the snow, beautiful color and pictures. Is it just me or are there air bubbles in your resin fill?

 

I had very high hopes for this creation but I'm glad that Rolli is on the case for a 201 sometime this year. I will try to get invigorated to gather good quality parts for a 201A build someday.

matching means the hands have the same patina on the tritium like the indices on the dial.

tritium is coloreless and was mixed with color pigment poweder C3, also the hands,

but the hands couldn't get the resin varnish for the mix, the hands tritium got a standard matt vernish for a also a better hold in the cut-out of the hands.

the dial indices got the tritium with a tritium resin varnish uv 820 (  same like i get ) the resin varnish is not uv resistant, and after the filling of each marker or nimeral,

the slightly domed resin varnish had to be stoped the shrunk effect on the dial indices by usoing an uv desk lamp and stoped the shrink and consistence and visicosity effect,

that the indices kept its dome shape.

the patina came mostly throught resin varnish and got the coor yellowed over the time more and more up to slightly orange,

the hands kept the C3 color, maybe a litlle bit little bit yellow or ovory,

so..

the differences in color, dial yellowed, hands whitish cream C3 =  non matched.

it was alo a assumption that the old chief dino zei or one of the design engineer made the decision that the nonmatched effect between hands and dial was intended.

and some hands got a varnish which was also not uv resitant, and this also not sesistant, and changed also the color and got patina.

and so they called = matched.

rolli

many thanks for help and recommendations

greetings

rolli

hi all,

where is to get this buckle in titanium  ???

many thanks

rolli