I understand your anger and sympathize with your situation. However, RWI still has many good people, good information, and is a fun environment to enjoy our hobby in. Putting a blanket statement over the entire forum and its members is hurtful, as most of the members just want to be rid off all the drama and talk about watches and other interesting things. I have learned a great deal from Pug and Andreww, and not having them their to share information, when helpful, is a loss. I know I don't understand most of what is behind all of the recent anger and resentment, but I do know I have learned a great deal and have enjoyed reading and talking about my favorite hobby at RWI...just the same as RWG and TRC. I have never posted in one of the "heated" threads before, but I felt strongly on this one. If you have to carry anger, let it be towards the people that you felt did you wrong, and not blanketed over the entire forum. Thanks guys.