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wild guess but maybe the heat retention of the thicker crystal affected the AR coating process? -bosk

Here are my scratched AR pics...no amount of cleaning removed the scratches: Scratches are not evident at certain angles. AR coated Saint Exp. in the background look great but the silver subdials are still quite shiny....that brown dial looks AWESOME with double AR But the other crystals came out great. Note that my other three crystals are very thin and the PO crystal was 3-5mm thick.

The crystals seemed slightly sticky (very slight....maybe its just the negative polarity of the sapphire) and there were dust flecks on them. air would not blow them off. So I attempted to wipe it with the lens cloth. A bunch of tiny swirlies appeared...front and back. The coating is not sratched all the way thru.....probably just the top layer. I'm not bothered since i know the lens will probaby eventually look that way regardless from everyday wear. Perhaps from rubbing of the dust particles on the lens. I washed my other crystals with soap and water and then dried them and wiped again with the lens cloth....that slight stickiness went away and the crystals are fine without scratches. -bosk

I got my crystals today. All crystals installed. One crystal got scratched as I was cleaning with my lens cloth (light swirly marks). This did not occur the other 3 that I cleaned. The crystals do seem to disappear on all 4 watches. Finger prints definitely a problem. Overall....I'm satisfied. Pics will follow once I get a chance. bosk

Alot of dealers are offering/selling double AR watches recently. Any possibility that this water-soluble AR is on the new watches like the VC, IWC inge, etc? -bosk

Dremel and the Rouge polish takes the toughest AR coating right off. GL bosk

Its REALLY hard getting the subdial hands back on and exactly straight....it can be done and is straightforward but it just takes me FOREVER. A loupe might help but not necessary. -bosk

The only thing holding me back from getting one is the mineral crystal. I wish they'd make a sapphire version. All of WBK's rollies have sapphire so WTF? Give omega some respect too! -bosk

Sounds like u pushed the pin button wrong and messed up the keyless works.

For my PO, I did not remove the bezel before removing the crystal. It just popped right out using a press. Before buying my press, I'd just lay it over a hole that was larger than the diameter of the crystal but smaller than the watch and pushed with the rubber handle of a screw driver. GL bosk

Anton, If you can afford to get the ROO Montoya pictured (Plat version), u should not be forced to sell your reps Sure I could afford 1 gen (<10K), but I like different watch styles and vary what I wear day to day. Get an AP!!!! And keep all your reps. I'm sure there will be a decent rep of the montoya soon: bosk

Get the gen hands....they just look better...no scratches and superb lume...and get the gen dial if you want the perfect torch effect. A gen dial is 150 and will fit perfectly in the SMP with ETA....even cheaper if you search on ebay. bosk

I'd like a 5002 design. Being able to fit a 24 mm strap would be great and would distinguish it somewhat from all the other pilots out there. -bosk

I'll second that opinion on Davidsen.

Fake AP chrono on the bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=008 subdials look all wrong...way too close together suggesting a quartz movement. Opinions?

Am I the only one having a hell of time removing the existing AR? I tried 2N H2SO4, 6 N HCL, Acetone, Lacquerer thinner (following the suggestions via Chiefang), paint stripper (the strongest I could find that removes all finishes....2 hr soak). The results have only been scratches to my existing AR coat....the IWG Ti Ingy Chrono and IWC St exp definitely have single sided AR coating. I noticed the my 4th gen PO 42mm does too. The result that I'm having the best luck with is a dermel with the rouge polish...of course this method is only usable with a sapphire crystal. The coating comes off in minutes Attempt at your own risk -bosk

One thing to note is for both movements/watches....the pushers do not line-up with the crown. One of the tells of all AP reps Sooooo...perhaps a rep case will not work without some modification. Specs on an AP watch: Movement Calibre: 2326/2840, selfwinding Diameter: 26 mm (11 1/2 lignes) Thickness: 6.15 mm 54 jewels 370 parts Up to 38-hour power reserve Cadence of the balance: 28,800 vibrations per hour Good discussion on the current AP ROO movement: http://timetapestry.blogspot.com/2007/02/l...der-engine.html Ventu reportedly uses a "LEMANIA 283, the only movement from Lemania that was not made by Lemania. It has an ETA 2892 engine and a Dubois Depraz Chronograph module, the magnifying lens is built in the movement (one of the charachteristics of this movement), the Crown and the pushers are not on the same straight line." Diameter: 30.00mm, Thickness: 6.50mm. So the ventu's diameter is on par with a 7750 (13.25 lignes)....which means that it will fit a rep case. Stem height maybe an issue as posted SD but hands can be slightly modified if the stem diameters are wrong. -bosk

$850 for the dial! I swore I've seen them cheaper....350 at most. -bosk

I did a bit more research on this watch and it should be a perfect fit for a gen dial. U can use any rep AP ROO case...under 300 used, place in the movement (which has a built in date mag), and u'll just need a gen dial....so thats 300 + 750 + another ~300..totaling 1350 for one of the best reps around.

I have one slot left for a double AR treatment. I'm already getting the IWC Ingy, Omega PO, and IWC St Exp. treated. Which should be my fourth watch? 1. IWC Ti Ingy chrono 2. A custom skeleton : 3. A modified IWC pilot chrono: TIA for any advice given bosk

There is single sided AR on the rep. I just took out my crystal for one of the AR runs and there is a definite blue tint to one side. Of course this does not do much for the glare caused by the silver subdials.....hoping a chief double AR treatment will correct the problem -bosk

No its definitely automatic.

Thats an interesting watch with the date mag in the window similar to the AP. If the subdial spacing is exactly like the gen AP, then u will need a gen dial too. If its like the 7550, that's a good find that should work.

Very nice. So the gen crown fits the rep tube? any info on the source of these items? I bot an extra dial in hopes of re-luming it but getting lume in between the markers cleanly proved too difficult for my skills. I wasn't happy with my results and just stuck on lumed C1 hands. Damn gen has the 15, 30, 45 and 60 numbers lumed anyways and reproducing that would be way too difficult. -bosk