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  4. 111H, buy modded or send it to mod?

    in The Panerai Area

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    Angus 111e + Chief AR + Vaclume/The Zigmeisterlume + 001b baseback = ultimate pam.

    At least one of the most accurate and stunning 111's i've seen. Will run about $600+ all up with servicing.

    001B wouldn't have AR. ;)

    There have been some issues with Angus' more recent "Ultimate" 111E/001Bs. vaccum has a thread about it on RWI. The case is designed to use a very thin dial (just like the 036 rep that had the same thick crown). However, the more recent versions have a thicker dial and this caused clearance/tolerance issues with the winding gear and the back of the dial.

    I've got a sausage dial 111 on the way from Silix that should make a really nice 001B. I have an Angus 001B with vaclume and a DSN crystal with no AR.

  5. PAM048 comparison -- rep v. gen

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted · Edited by peepshow

    You know, Fred, as I was looking at the pics, I was asking myself the same thing. I can't decide if it's a trick of more light reflecting on the rep hands making them look wider or if they are actually wider. I'll have to check when my wife gets home, she's wearing the gen to work today. ;)

    P4 -- the rep is already spoken for, sorry.

  7. PAM048 comparison -- rep v. gen

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted · Edited by peepshow

    Sorry for the cut and paste from my thread on RWI. I would have just posted a link to that thread, but I didn't know if that was OK, or not. At any rate, I thought the fine folks here might find this interesting as well...

    Alright, here is a quick comparison of my wife's rep PAM048 sourced from Ruby and her 2nd-hand gen H series that we just got over the weekend. The gen is the one with the dark brown DON calf strap, the rep is sporting a Micah/Vintager "Gobi" strap.

    DSCF1017.jpg

    So, here you can clearly see the difference in the date font and date magnification between the gen and the rep. The crown/CG of the rep are actually quite accurate, except that her gen is an H series so it has the newer style CG with the curved top (shown in a picture below). The CG lever on the rep is also a little thinner and stick out from the case *just* a bit more than the gen. The font on the rep is a bit too big and the indices are thicker on the rep than on the gen. The cross bars on the "A"s are a tad lower on the rep, but not as bad as some of the hand winding PAM reps. Other than the date issues, you'd be hard pressed to spot these differences if they weren't side by side, though.

    DSCF1011.jpg

    You can see the difference in the CG shapes here. Keep in mind that the 048 rep is a C series, so the shapes *should* be different. Also notice the small differences in the size and shape of the lugs as well as the difference in the location of the lug screw holes.

    DSCF1015.jpg

    Not much else to talk about here -- the rep bezel appears to be a bit taller than the gen bezel. Again, these are different series, and knowing Panerai, it's entirely possible that genuine C series watches had taller bezels than gen H series, but I don't know that for certain. Regardless the difference is minimal.

    DSCF1013.jpg

    Sorry for the blurry pic here. But notice that the gen caseback engraving is a slightly different size and closer to the edge of the flat part of the case back. As expected, the engraving on the back of the gen is deeper/better/cleaner than the rep case back.

    So, in summary, the 048 rep is a VERY close representation of the gen. The AR is lacking on the rep and the date wheel and date mag needs to be modified, as well as a relume. If you do those things, you would have a rep that is VERY, VERY difficult to distinguish from the genuine. The A7750 isn't even much louder than the gen! Although the gen winds much smoother, as expected. :wink:

  8. OK, You Asked For It..............

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted · Edited by peepshow

    WOW!!!!

    That is quite a collection, UJ!

    Hey, I see an older DSN 201A rep in there in addition to your gen 201A, cool!

    Is that 203 a gen?!?!?! Shadow case 040, a 172, a T dial 009.... That's heaven! Amazing collection of timepieces, Jay. Simply amazing...

    [Joker from the 1st Batman movie]

    Where DOES he get those wonderful toys?

    [/Joker from the 1st Batman movie]

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