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Have you tried DSN? I'm pretty sure he has bracelets to fit his cases and he *is* the go to guy for "sterile" or "unbranded" parts....

...Thanks, Though the hands were giving me an itch...

And that is the BEST reason to do a mod, IMO.

Nice work!

Your gen dial:

My DSN dial:

Pretty close. The top bar on the "3" is a bit too thick and the "2" in the 12 is a bit different shaped. The 6 and 9 look pretty good, though. They'd really have to be side-by-side to see the differences, IMO.

Oh, and with a T dial, yours would more likely be a 10A or B, not D series. Nice pick-up, though! Hmmmm, perhaps Jay has another 10 dial around somewhere?

I'd say if you're already having 2nd thoughts, it's probably not the right decision to go forward.

asad, good job on the hands, however, you didn't "have" to relume the hands. Non-matching hands/dials are quite common on T dial PAMs.

Looks good either way!

OP forgot AR double/single coatings!

Most PAM reps come with AR coated crystals and no PAMs that I'm aware of were ever offered with double AR...

Those mods shouldn't cost you anywhere near $500. I'd say $250 is a more accurate estimate...

2 straps? LOL Try 6 or seven at least! It's a sickness.

Pam, these are new crowns? They don't look the same as your previous crowns.....

They look, well, better.

Fine by me!

If you ever get tired of the Zero, asad, just let me know. I'll take it off your hands (and get it PVD'd!). Nice collection!

I don't post here much, but I thought I'd take this opportunity to post a couple of "family" photos.

Well, my wife finally left her PAM at home today, so I took the opportunity to snap some photos of the collection as it sits. I hope you enjoy!

The straps are:

002D -- GeF Valdarno in caramel

048H -- Mario Paci XI in papaya brown

210I -- Savage antique tan

I had the "crown becoming crooked" issue on my PVD MM20 from DSN. According to my local watchmaker at that time, it was an issue with the stem, not the crown. He fixed it for $25, but I never got a clearer idea of what the problem was.

Good luck!

...As far as whether a gen RXW MM20 is worth the price ?? It would depend on the price. $1200 - $1600.00 for the later production with tight lever and more importantly AR coated Sapphire crystal then I would say definately!!!! Alot of watch, holds it's value and they are out of production meaning they will likely only go up in price (especially the sapphire models)...

I think the question is if a PVD MM20 would be worth $2900. I don't think so. Like you said, $1200-1600 -- that would make the PVD job $1300-1700. I know IWW will do the job for about $600. Seems a bit pricey to me.

Oh and I agree that this looks to be a fake.

doc, you get a gold star for the Boondock Saints reference, my friend! Great movie!

Oh, and nice watch franco.

AFAIK, there were never any MM20s offered in PVD from Ken Trading/RXW. So this is aftermarket PVD, most likely. I've seen MM20s selling on BigWatchForum.com for $1200-1500, so yeah it's overpriced, IMO.

You can get a Swiss 6497 powered PVD MM20 from Davidsen for ~$400. Real Swiss 6497, real sapphire, etc. Food for thought....

That's funny, slai, I was thinking the same thing. I will say that the non-charged color of the lume on the dials is different between my Orange Monster and my 002D. Although, I have no idea if the OM is using plain C3 or not.

Or maybe I just need to get my eyes checked.....

I dunno, I find that the Panerai gen lume glows a bit more blue than the green-ish glow of normal C3. I can even see it in your pictures...

Great looking watch, jkarpas!

I would expect that it used the same mixture of C3 and C1 that all the other C series Panerai dials used...

I know vaccum has relumed more than one DSN 082 dial. Probably The Zigmeister has, too...

I agree with you now.

Although, like UJ, I had never seen a gen with that style 6/9 before, either.

With vintage PAM pieces even more so than any other, you need to buy the seller more than the watch, it would seem...

Yes 6 & 9 are more open than usual but they have the correct thickness. DSN's are double the thickness and very wrong.

Also the case from the ebay photos look ok and not modern style rep. Hands look ok, crystal looks ok..

Again I really don't know but my feelings say it is gen or this collector has done a MAGNIFICENT job.

DSN has dials with thinner indices, as well --

Mentalist, the next time I'm in the UK (which given the current work environment at my employer could be anytime), I'm definitely coming into your store for some shirts. As I said in my PM, I don't wear suits often enough to justify the investment in a couple of suits, but I'm all over some bespoke shirts. Pants, too, if you do pants separately from jackets.

I believe this is the wrong forum to post a "Want to Buy" advert.

I'm just saying...

I don't know for certain, but I would think it should fit on the movement with no issues.

This one --

Wow, an L 036 dial! That is a rare bird, indeed!

Thanks for sharing Jay!