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If you don't have the tool then don't try. Should be a zenith movement if gen.

Try a macro setting and better lighting. But that other pic up close doesn't have that rolex gen look at all ..

14060 probably, there are no reps of this.

That's ok, nobody is saying that you're joking or anything like that. I really do believe that it's not genuine. That is I'm trying to help you inform yourself on exactly what you have. It could very well be the lighting or bad pic but a gen daytona is so elegant in every way, it can't possibly look that bad no matter what camera is used. Again with the newer band it's a mystery and if you look at a few macro's of daytona dials you'll see that even the pinion holes are gorgeous...

The case came from phong with 5510 markings. The t17 came from nanuq. I can't vouch for its authenticity but he can and I believe it is a genuine t17 yes. Ill let phong know

I've seen lots of these (gen) and this one is very strange. The bezel is not real there's no way. The dial is off, here is a pic of the gen dial so you can see. Band is a newer one but the watch is a ref 16523 so it should have an older band with removable end links. To think that the person spent more than the watch to put a newer band on it makes no sense. For me the biggest tell is the pinion holes they are too big and open.

It is a fake, watchmaker needs a new job!

Gorgeous!!! It must be stunning with the other insert. Ill look into that, might take me a while but I'm sure ill find one, thanks!

Thanks, guys and yes it's an exclamation point dial!! Gloss dial that has a spider web effect, really cool.

Lol, no just a young man from montreal. Thanks nanuq, he's shipping it out once my wire clears. I can't wait!! It's a 1958 so the crown is perfect

I think that it's more a case of people trying to find period correct parts to replace on an existing watch that might need something here or there. The term Franken over there means that a watch has been put together using non period correct parts. There's a fine line but if someone over there has a 1675 from 1967 for example and wants to replace parts then they have to have a lot of expertise. They could get a nice faded insert for it but that insert has to be period correct, it has to be a 1967 insert that it would have left the factory with. That's all ok. There are some I'm sure, who don't care and just use any parts they find to construct a watch. The bezel could be a later one used with an earlier dial and a case number that pre-dates it all. That's a Franken. The buyer is supposed to know these things as well so it is important to do lots and lots of homework before buying something. They frown on frankens but not replacing an old damaged part with one that is period correct and correct for that exact model. For example I bought a 5508 from Jacek over there recently. The bezel has seen better days so I did lots of research and found a replacement that is period correct and correct for my model. If and when I decide to sell it, it's not considered a Franken. I don't have to mention it because its irrelevant. The watch would have left rolex with that exact bezel in 58' so it's ok. If it was nos or a later service replacement one, I'd have to mention that.

It is a t17 if it was gen but I have a phong 5510 case and tried the t17, it doesn't fi, It takes a t19.

I heard the governor talking about threatening the power company's into hustling by telling them they will score low with the regulatory commission or not be able to do business again, I like that. He also threatened local businesses about price gouging and that if caught they would be prosecuted, also liked that. He seems like one of the good ones, although to be honest I had no idea who he was before today. I heard him deflecting questions about the marathon and saying that he will leave it up to the police? To take any resources away from the communities that need help is bonkers! What are they thinking?

Or

http://www.classicwatchparts.com/catpart/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=44

For 65$

Phong makes them

Some do and some don't, the ones with the big seconds bubble are white, the ones with the normal seconds hand it's in gold.

"If there is a single movement ubiquitous in modestly-priced contemporary chronographs, it is the Valjoux 7750. Introduced in 1974--five years after the famed Zenith El Primero automatic--the movement has been supplied in both 21,600 and 28,800 beat versions. It uses an automatic-winding module attached to the top of the movement, winding in one direction by means of a single double-click wheel. Initially using 17 jewels, current versions run in 25. The 7750 is 13.25 ligne (30 millimeter) design, 7.9 millimeters thick."

Ok so we know the movement has 25 jewels and they are now claiming that theirs have 29. They must be referring to the seconds at 6 problem and added 4 jewels similar to what they did for the AP offshore's. Would I buy one now that they did that, no. Is this model any good, no not really. The case is terrible, the pushers are wrong and so many other issues. Bottom line is imo stay away, I can spot a fake daytona from a thousand feet across the room. It has a sexyness in real life viewing (gen) that is so easily detectable.. They are lying about using 316f steel. They can add jewels all day long, it won't matter, it's an unreliable movement that people should run from in any other configuration than seconds at 9. There are a couple of modders who can take it apart and make it somewhat more reliable for you after purchase but because the case dial and everything else is so bad It's not worth the trouble

You have to ask phong those questions. The dial will fit an eta if the feet are clipped, I know that much. Find gilt hands and then have them relumed by zig to match the dial plots. And zig can reshape the case from phong while he's at it to give it a curvier gen look. You will have a winner with that combo

Your friend did nothing wrong, it is a gold daytona with a Newman dial, exactly as advertised.

It is called the Paul Newman dial, Freddy was referring to it not being the 'true' Paul Newman watches of the 60's and 70's. Anytime you see the watch you purchased being advertised it will refer to the dial as a Paul Newman dial. The name was given to those models by the public as a way of referencing them like people did with steve McQueen and the 1655. Now it's just a marketing ploy I guess, or a way of cashing in on the popularity of it. You have a gorgeous watch and the dial is a somewhat limited version. Enjoy it!

Wow!

That's ok, thanks anyhow, I don't have any 1665's at the moment.

Dreams do come true!

He makes them