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By-Tor

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  1. Thanks Kruzer. :)

    Yeah, I'm quite amazed how well the good old Sub (finally) got replicated. I mean, it has been the most requested watch since the day one. I believe the Chinese will have a hard time selling their inferior wokky POS Submariners to our membership now. Very simple watch, yet they never made it even remotely correct. It was always a mystery to me... why? It took an "outsider" (WM9) to finally answer the bell.

    About the bracelet, still: I wonder how many members have attempted this: Besides oiling the bracelets, I always polish them with Turtle Wax and it immediately creates this silky and smooth "feel" on the surface. Give it a try, it really makes a difference.

  2. I have performed crown guard mods successfully without removing the crown. It's not difficult at all on some watches. Most of them just need the "insides" straightened out.

    Just unscrew the crown to the hack position, which leaves just enough space between the tube and guards to operate there... then put some protector tape over the crown and bezel and use very thin hand file like this to straighten the guards. Just be very slow and careful and it goes ok.

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    I did at least 3 watches using this method and the end results were very satisfactory.

    Note: This GMT is not my gen. :D

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  3. Yes, sir, it is pretty clear. I have understood when I have seen this post.

    But my question is : is the difference terrific or not ?

    For example, if BKWM9 has a valutation of 10, what is in your opinion , the valutation of the Euro v4 ?

    If valutation is << 9 >> I buy Euro, because whit asian has a good price. If valutation is << 7,5 >> I buy BKWM because difference in quality is great.

    The differences between these good Sub reps are actually minimal... and only matter to the HC guys.

    Euromariners are very good... I'm not that familiar with the newest updates but even the older versions were excellent. I say go for it. With Asian movement Euromariner is very good value for money. 8 or 9 out 10 definitely.

  4. Oh, sir By Tor, you dont have answered to my question. :o

    No problem, but I really desire a your valutation BKWM9 vs EURO V4 because you are very expert, and your conseil is very importanto for me, because I desire a good value for money for my rep buyments :excl:

    Is this not possible ? Ok. But a your conseil for me is very important. :) Thanks

    WM9 Sub v2 and WM9 YM the best ever otb Rolex replicas, and superior to anything else in the market. I thought I made that pretty clear in my article. :)

  5. It's WM9 version 1.

    Still an excellent replica / excellent option if you don't want to put $500 on the v2. It's the same base watch minus the superluminova dial, improved pearl, cg's and hollow link bracelet.

    You also have to mod the cg's but that's easy. Only the insides need a tiny bit of straightening.

    Even I thought long and hard before upgrading to v2 as v1 was really good already.

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  6. Well I don't know Robbie... I'm still not totally crazy about this watch and I prefer the classic models more. But I think I'm slowly getting used to it.

    I checked the gen when I was in my local AD and the clasp feels a bit better on the gen. Visually there is very little difference (the bezel is shinier on the gen though) and overall I think this replication is amazing. I don't know... maybe I get used to these bulkier cg's, more square case and polished middle links eventually. When it comes to Sub I definitely like the classic 16610 too much... if I had to buy the gen I would definitely get the old one. You'd better get the rep first and see if it's really the watch for you.

    Just my 2c. :)

  7. Sometimes I wonder about this endless debate about "quality" and "better value for money" thing. I have my gen Rolex and rep Rolex here side-by-side and they both keep excellent time, feel at least 95-99% the same. If your rep has a genuine ETA movement in it, it's not one of those few "bad apples", the function and sweep are the same. I don't see the "dramatic" difference that people always talk about. Sure... you need to make some precautionary things occasionally, like glue the bracelet screws in, oil the bands and maybe even do some mods... etc. but that's just fun.

    Yeah I see some visual differences in the finish too, because I'm a watch fanatic, and those are visible in the zoomed pictures (if you're lucky and the lightbox settings are optimal).

    What is "quality" and how do you actually measure it... if the watch functions and keeps good time? I understand when we're talking about watches like Patek, Breguet and JLC... reps can't compete. But mass produced brands like Omega, Breitling and Rolex... what's so special about them, besides (often) the amazing design that the replicas forge? Especially stainless steel Rolex... as much as I love my gen I simply don't see the dramatic difference here. I own some reps (like the SFSO) that easily surpasses the feel and "quality feel" of my gen Rolex and gen TAGs (that I used to own).

    I'm afraid 70% of of the membership in the replica community comes here for their quick Sub fix and then disappear... or might eventually get interested in watches a little during their search process. They're not hardcore WIS, but their main motivation is impress someone. In that sense I don't see brands like Hamilton being any kind of threat to high end reps (on a larger scale anyway).

    This went a bit OT now though...

  8. lol, that's a stretch.....................maybe Bob could use this feature when an avalanche traps him in an ice cave when Redoubt blows;

    OK men, time to weigh our assets and liabilities;

    Assets; Plenty of H2O and I'm wearing a Rolex ref. 1655.

    Liabilities; No bars on the cell phone, emergency services will be busy with the ash fall and utilities, we won't even be listed as 'missing' until morning, which, according to my orange hand, will be in exactly..................17 hours. Cool! God Bless you Hans Wilsdorf..............

    But seriously, this is exactly why I need a Speedmaster Moon gen. I'm afraid of breaking the sapphire crystal in my space capsule and having the shards clog the CO2 rebreather. Hesalite is the only way to go. Thank goodness Rolex and Omega are watching out for us.....................

    :D

    And not to mention all those important features on a Navitimer. No 747 pilot can land his plane safely without constantly checking things from his bezel slide rule. And we all use the tachymeter on our chronographs of course... very important feature, although checking the tachymeter and simultaneously driving a car 300 km/h is pretty challenging. Wonder if Raikkonen, Schumacher and Hamilton all wear their Rolex Daytonas during the F1 races...

    All these are pretentious features and common sense doesn't have anything to do with our watch obsession. But then again world can't be that serious. It's nice to be a kid forever and enjoy our nice, mindless toys.

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