Mike on a bike

The master at work!

ME!

Smelt it coming Freddy wanted to lock this before we got to this .

(As you may have guessed we are simpatico on this issue but I am impartial in my role here.)

Now that is going to stir the pot surgcmdr.

Great better deals on Gens next year as grey market sellers load up on stuff they could not move, think Joma.

PS I think everything down.

" discussion that Islam is faulty " that is going to go over well..................

Sure no one here is Kevin, more along the lines of hitting these guys with everything we have hard till they stop or are dead, some Muslim countries are just as afraid of these killers as we are we'd being helping them also.

If you like we can open back up, did not want it to go down hill...................

It is plain to see everyone's position is clear and we are not going to change each others view .  But go right ahead keep debating the nuances of what is called this and that.

Gents I think we have all said our piece here so I will be locking this up shortly. As we all spend most of our free time here unlike other boards which frown upon such topics I think it good for us to talk about important matters such as this. For myself want to get a sense of what others are thinking world wide I am surely not visiting the cross section of countries that our members are from. This in no way means we can not have a similar topic again if world events present themselves but at this point beating a dead horse.

Well more :   http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/20/africa/mali-shooting/index.html

Yes 436 "plans within plans within plans" , I gather you smell disinformation in the air as do I in the current happenings. Whatever keeps the oil flowing with the least amount of interruption will be the order of the day whether that is bombing them into the stone age (for a little while, make it look good) or a massive ground offensive (not, we tried that one) or sitting tight behind perceived security that will surely be breached while sending in special ops (most likely).

The spice must flow kernow all else is secondary.

As always on this board which I consider the place for the senior guys (not in age but in thought process) of the rep world the discourse is kept in the bounds of civility even with disagreements on this hot button issue. Somewhere in all of our thoughts posted here is a logical path to follow.  I do not claim to know it but it lies somewhere between sending in the B-52s from Diego Garcia and laying waste the enemy and hiding behind layers of security hoping they do not slip through I'll venture. Let us hope that the world both the west and Muslim find a way to make it work between us.

Just find one here in the states cheap send to me I'll ship over to you think it cost like 25 usds to you.

A very complex situation in the Muslim world with the Shiite, Sunnis internal struggle, tribal and national rivalries w/ century old axes to grind. This has proven itself to be beyond any western leader or power to remedy and to put or hope on a solution coming from within is a great leap of faith. We have found however despite the power to take the real-estate we get back to square one or an even worse sit. ala now, maybe pcardoza is on the right track. So we pull out and instead of us killing them they kill each other and let Allah sort it out, OK what could go wrong with that.....................tongue firmly implanted in cheek. So hopefully the guys 435NR knows take the day and all is well or perhaps not and we are deeper in shit than now.
To that end let us one and all watch the video by the learned professor that Steel shared:   https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y?t=8

A real can of worms we have here gents.

No not yet really but I'm sure it will in time, just remember to please forget political correctness NO opinion is suppressed here. The fact that some feel a fight /war is in order does nor mean the thread is going south nor does Kens stance or 435NR's mean it is either , all are entitled to there view.

PS Oh forgot to mention Freddy333's post , love your crusader pic !

Let's have a better look at the spider..............

Yes keep alert, I sweep my computer every day clean no saved passwords no nothing. I keep a hand written two page list I use no same password twice on anything.

"I fear people are really suggesting a war on Islam and I wonder if our children or their children will one day be studying about the start of WW111....or worse."  unfortunately yes Ken there is little other recourse being left to western civilization. Me thinks they made a grave strategic error poking the Russian bear and then hitting the French hard in short order, old feuds fade fast in the face of a common enemy.

Yea Micky, Gen spider dial, Gen insert great work by StoneP.

My Condolences also on the eve of these horrific actions.

My take also, just putting it out there.

No PBR perhaps you can post across all the boards that you want it repped ala Fluffy. Sorry Fluffy could not resist, word of advice: just laugh dude it is your thing it will most likely be referenced for years when someone makes similar posts, run with it lighten up mate. Next time you see someone post I want this repped post "not going to happen not up to the Fluffy request level!" own it!

Well you would not get punished here just a dead subject mate not repped as of yet get over it.

Read here Fluff;