slay

... and ...

Like I said, it's most likely a login sniffer on the old RWG site.

Oh, I didnt read that one. But I still wonder how they got his pp eMail address (unless of course its the same he signed up with on RWG).

I still stand by my password sniffer on the login processing page of RWG1 theory. It's easier than a keylogger and explains why they don't have his RWI/RWG2 login/passes.

that would only tell them his RWG1 password and nothing more. I doubt he used the same password for RWG1 and pp!

You're assuming the vector went undetected. I can imagine a payload hiding, but the vector itself would have been seen. I don't picture Chris as the type to not use a firewall against RPCs or the bloke that installs anything for a hope of free pr0n ...

keyloggers can send their stuff via eMail or whatsoever. If he just has a hardware firewall, It will easiely go through. also good programms can higjack firewalls too and/or bypass them! maybe the keylogger placed itself in another exe (IE.exe for example) and he just klicked on "allow Internet Explorer to acces the internet".

and you get infected with those unknown keyloggers faster than you can think, especialy when you are targeted by someone! maybe someone on the forum send him a prepared web-link which installed the keylogger? maybe someone send him a prepared rarfile? everything is possible!

you can STILL have a keylogger/trojan on your computer, even if all programs dont find anything.

why? because good scammers program their own stuff, which will NEVER be detected by antivirus/spyware software and such.

so better reinstall windows! i cant imagine how else they could have gotten your password, unless you responed to a phising mail!

i doubt anyone went thorugh all the trouble and did that..!

UPDATE!!!

pp HAVE ASSURED ME HAT ALL THE BUYERS WILL RECEIVE A FULL REFUND!!!!!

I will not be receiving a credit for my £467 loss as the hackers sent it to another account as payment for omething and pp will not acknowledge my claim for retribution as it was a payment from one account to another and the seller has indicated that the item has been sent with some tracking details so I cannot be refunded as pp's policy on NON-Ebay items is merely to insure arrival of the goods and not the condition or description of said goods. Shower of [censored] if you ask me, they won't gimme my money back and w=knowing my luck i'll get a [censored] brick sent it the mail.

I have to add that a deal done with Cib)rgman for the 1680 dial WILL be upheld and the dial has been shipped, despite the fact that I don't have access to the funds he sent me.

I now KNOW that NO users will lose out in this, which was my main concern.

Chris

That is not correct. pp was not honest with you there. I asked about the tracking number and what happens if they just sent false/bogus tracking number. The woman told me, that they will make 10000% sure that a Package IS delivered to my door step and that they CAN do that.

IF you recieve anything unknown, dont accept it, dont sign anything. And tell pp you never recieved anything.

So DONT give your money up. Also tell them, it was NOT your IP who made that transaction. [censored] at them as much as you can, and they will sort things out. If they dont, threaten them with a lawyer. If you need one, I can ask my mother to file a complaint against pp for you, because she is a lawyer! She wont charge you anything and the least you can do is try! THREATEN THREATEN THREATEN! it has worked sooo many times for me!

were your pp&trc&email password the same? if not, you might have a keylogger on your computer!

I'd rather have that WM instead of the money

i dont think anyone is able to retrieve the pw's from the database, as they are crypted! not even the admin

I would suggest you guys to call your credit card first before calling pp.

If your account is backed up by a bank account, remove it right away.

Then file a dispute and call pp.

thats not a very good idea, since pp will [censored] your pp account down and will never allow you to open one again, if you call your cc company!

and I thought I made the deal of my life! a WM for 230 bucks

I have a question about this that I cannot answer as I am relatively new here.

Do you, Edge, have the watches that were advertised? If so, is this something that is generally known.

If not, where did the information come from? It should be obvious to all of you that this problem is internal. It is highly unlikely that some hacker from the Net would know to push watches that most people never heard of, and wouldn't know what the significance was if they did.

Could someone provide me the e-mail addresses of the administrators of this board and TRC? I assume we have an administrator assisted by moderators situation so I would like to e-mail the adminstrators directly with a suggestion.

Bill

He does not have the watches and never had them. And those who put them up for sale HAVE to be internal, for sure!

I was curious why Edge said "all saled" instead of "all sold," and I didn't see him posting at RWI.

Seriously, I was wondering about that too! I even checked RWG2 and RWI and wondered why he didnt put them up for sale, but I thought what the heck, those will be gone immeadeatly anyways!

And I also wondered why he never responded to my PM!

What if it's gon to another PP account?

Alright, guys whoever bought something, listen up:

File a complaint NOW! I have already done so and I also called pp. They told me due to my complaint, the money I sent is already frozen. I should recieve my money within 11 Days MAX. If not, I will call Mastercard (and I told the lady on the phone that I will do so if they dont get it back!).

they wont get my money! if pp doesnt sort this out TODAY, I will call mastercard.

transaction to their bank account takes them more than 5days, and I wont give them 5 days!

@leitztozeiss cancel the transaction!

i'm on the phone with pp right now (still in the waiting line...!)

those guys HAVE to be from the forum, because they KNEW what they were talking about! noone else would know about watchmaster and swan neck/ar coated fiddy and such! have admin check the IP adress and such

btw. you might have a keylooger or something like that on your computer! so better dont use it anymore (or reinstall windows)

you have pm

i hope it was really you who posted his watches up for sale @TRC yesterday and not the same guys who already stole your pp passwords?

Also just a quick pic of the watch I sent Floris, yes it's an Asian but still a very nice watch to look at.....

Ken

now thats a chic-magnet

does that mean the MBW has a wrong datefont? i thought that was a big no-no for MBWs

for beginners, a 600 is way too large IMHO. 125 is just right. insurance is cheap, and it wont go faster than 180km/h!

Cagiva Mito is one of the best motorbikes for beginners. it looks awesome and is just a 125/150ccm bike (means it doesnt have much power, but it still HAS a lot of power!)

I loved that bike when I was young... It is soooo awesome! I had it in yellow, but was involved in an accident and since those are very rare (and had to be imported from italy back then) I got a black one as replacement!

pic:

Well this is fantastic news to wake up to...!

Out with the Negative,... In with the Positive !

doesnt happen very often

Germany (born there)

USA (have family/friends there)

Netherlands (have friends there)

Austria (have family/friends there)

Switzerland (have family there)

Italy (have friends there)

Spain (have family there)

Portugal (have friends there)

France (have family there)

Agypt

Israel+Palestine (a BIG shithole if you ask me!)

Canada

Brasil (have family/friends there)

Turkey (have family there)

Cuba (viva la revolutione!!)

Mexico

Ireland

Belgium

Russia (have friends there)

Marocco

Trinidad

Tobego

Denmark (have friends there)

Norway (have friends there)

Sweden (have friends there)

Croatia

Poland

Bosnia

Jugoslavia

Luxemburg

Hungary

Abu Dhabi

Sri Lanka

maybe a bunch of other european countries i dont remember right now, but i've been all over europe. most places i have visited with my parents (when i was underage) who travel A LOT. of those, i guess i liked agypt the most, because of all the tombs and pyramids and stuff... also we met a famous movie director in the hotel we stayed at and spend most of our vocation with him and his daughter and another guy who was a former UN-soldier stationed in syria (they were all great intelectual&intersting ppl and it was very nice talking to them!)

most of the eastern european countries i only visited to get drunk&party with friends!