At this point I think it's going to take a lot of convincing to get most of the members here to continue business with the larger dealers here who after 12 pages of posts, appear to be lying or misleading their customers. I personally have had no problems with any of the dealers, but I would like to see certain things change. I prefer quality over quantity and would much prefer instead of thousands of reps to choose from, most of which being not accurate reps.......a couple hundred reps to choose from, but all accurate and have had undergone some form of quality control. I know this is a long shot, but I feel that the few reps I have need to be babied almost, whereas the seiko I have which costs the same can go through a few lakes and oceans without a hiccup. I know that I'm fairly new, but since I've been on the forum, I've also felt this weirdness in the air and I just want all to return to happiness and trustworthiness here in the land of Oz