TeeJay

No problem at all, I'm always happy to help. A few months back I ordered a Panerai 111h from my usual dealer, and it had a problem where the power reserve was non-existant, and despite keeping perfect time, it would stop after an hour or so. I emailed them and asked if I could exchange it for a different model, they agreed, so I shipped it back, and received the replacement watch (I'd chosen an Omega Aqua Terra for my dad) To be honest, it wasn't a flaw that the dealer could have seen while inspecting the watch so I didn't hold it against them, and, they resolved the issue in a single email, no quibbling or argument at all. I've since customized the Aqua Terra and gave it to my dad for his birthday a few weeks back, and actually ordered another 111h from the dealer. This one hasn't had any problem at all with the power reserve, and has hardly left my wrist (other than winding and photos) since it arrived I'm sure you'll be able to work something out with your dealer and come to a mutually satisfactory resolution

I'm not going to argue dictionary definitions with you, we'll just have to agree to disagree To be honest, as long as a person is in control of the tools (ie it's not a computer operated automatic machine) then I would personally consider that to be good enough to be considered hand-crafted, although I would be happy to agree that there is still a difference between using a hand-operated tool (like a hand file) and using a 'labor-saving' tool like a dremel, as one process is involving 'elbow grease', the other just requires the skill to use the tool properly

That definitely doesn't sound good. Could be the hands slipping, could be cogs slipping, I really don't know enough about movements to diagnose the problem, but I can tell you that it shouldn't be behaving in the way it is... A jeweller could probably fix it (or install a new movement) but why pay them to do it, when the dealer sent you something that's clearly faulty? Ship it back to the dealer and ask for an exchange or refund. You'll likely have to pay the shipping to return it, but better the cost of that than a repair bill which could be at least twice the shipping costs... Best of luck getting the situation resolved

My stuff has arrived both by regular mail and by courier (Parcel Force take over the local end) and never had a problem. I couldn't suggest a specific watch smith, but I've found the best ones to try are the independant family owned stores. In London, I can't imagine you'd have much trouble finding one

It's gaining +10 in less than half an hour?? Send it back right now. Don't bother taking it into a jewellers to be regulated, that kind of gain, when taken over a 24 hour period is huge. It shouldn't gain +10 in a day, so it certainly should not be + 10 in 30 minutes... Sorry to say it, but it sounds like you've been sent a lemon

Awesome, thanks

That was what I envisioned from the descriptions, thanks for the visual confirmation Time for me to see what's available

The difference, is there in the words you typed. "Hand crafted" Vs "Hand Made". I've worked on projects before where I had to use power tools to do things (dremel etc) and although I wouldn't class the work as "hand made" (as it wasn't filed through elbow-grease and a hand-file) it was still "hand crafted" as it was done by a person, rather than a CNC grinder (or as would compare to this, a computerized sewing machine) I'd suggest that that's the case with these straps

Thanks for the pointers, guys, I'll see what I can find

Definitely an easy buckle to track down Is that what the OEM buckle would look like, or would it have some kind of logo on it?

That's awesome news, congratulations

Which would look like what? I'm only just getting into PAMs, and know there's a huge variety in buckles, so I need to know (visually) precicely what to keep an eye out for

More usefull and interesting information. I've got to agree with V, that I can't see any level of patina reaching that color. I don't doubt the lunch meeting the person had, but a comment like "This is the watch he wore" could have literally meant "This is the watch he wore (on a different strap)"... The points made about OEM/Aftermarket straps are both equally valid. From one perspective, indeed, why would a company represent someone else's product in the media, but on the other hand, as mentioned, it's a film, creative liberties are taken all the time (see the X-33 Tom Cruise wore in Minority Report, for example) so the aftermarket strap, rather than the OEM, is certainly a possibility. Having looked at the still where he's charging his phone, the shape of the stitching does look more like the OEM strap than the aftermarket... As a side question, does anyone know what buckle was on the strap? As previously mentioned, I'm looking for as visually similar to what Orlando wore as possible.

Same as before

Oh well It looked like the Panerai Clone I'd seen If they're good enough for Ewan (my favorite actor), they're good enough for me Hee hee, not a term I came up with, but, whatever helps him get through the day and feel self-important

I think this quote pretty much shows how up himself he is...

That's a supercool lineup there I think it's safe to say that Orlando's a watch collector Hee hee, that's in a movie, so, as was said about Kieffer Sutherland's Sub, it's not a rep, it's a 'prop' I can't wait to get the SS bracelet for my 111h, the matt and polished sections are going to really pick up the matt case and brushed bezel and crown guard I know PAMs are celebrity favorites, but, I'm going to take a chance here and suggest that this might infact be a Clone Panerai by another manufacturer. Something about the shape of the crown guards doesn't quite look right, and, if you look at the center of the CG, there are two lines of shadow at the 3 O clock. Rather like a crown which goes the length of the crown guard, and is only protected on the sides by two 'wings'. I only say this as I saw a watch like this not so long ago in a jewellers. I can't remember the brand, I think it might've been a seconda...

I'm not too hot on PAM models, but, looking at that pic, I'd say that the main dial was a dark grey rather than black, and that the secs @ 9 subdial was a lighter grey. The case might be titanium, although I wouldn't want to say for sure... If I ever get a guinea pig with wavy dark hair, I'll know just what to call him

I haven't seen it either, and to be honest, am not the world's greatest fan of Orlando Bloom, my interest was more in the watch than him personally That said, I'll probably get round to watching the movie at some point I have to admit, I didn't notice a PAM in Bridget Jones' Diary, but, having read, I know it's worn by Hugh Grant As for the Transporter, Jason Statham's PAM is another 'movie watch' I'm keen to add to my collection (his comment on the T 1 commentary about the watch makes it sound like his own personal posession rather than a wardrobe piece as he says the name with real pride) Absolutely As in against the skin, or the longer section which comes from the 6 O Clock lugs? If the color is different to the default strap, that would rather point towards an aftermarket addition rather than it being a default strap... This is precicely why I thought it best to ask the advice of those in the know, rather than muddling through the various strap sites while tabbing back to the still of Orlando giving Kirsten a piggy back and scratching my head

Thanks for the link, and indeed, a shame the links had been removed. If the watch was on loan, then I'd take Orlando's comment (and the interviewer's note) to mean he bought a PAM after filming (sadly, it only said Panerai Luminor, it didn't specificy further what model he had bought himself)

Congrats on a successful resolution

Thanks for the reference material guys. Logan, if you were able to dig up production stills of the watch, that would be fantastic. From comments Orlando made in an interview about buying a new watch, and the interviewer's note that it was a Panerai, I'm wondering if this was indeed his own personal property rather than a 'costume piece'. From the second photo, it's clear he has the second keeper on the strap (something I don't tend to do on PAMs as I find they slide up (as Orlando's has done) so find it easier to remove them) It shouldn't be too hard to track down a suitable strap based on those pictures, if anyone (V ) could point out a supplier, that would be most appreciated Thanks again, everyone

Honesty is something I strive for at all times My "Isn't that a woman's watch?" thought wasn't so much that I thought the design of the watch was solely feminine, it was just that I had only seen women wearing the marque, so was unsure if it was indeed a watch designed solely for female wear, or if it was intended to be a unisex watch, which was why that was my thought. As for 'ingrained', sadly, that's a result of cultural brainwashing, and something folks now have to struggle against due to a shift in popular ideology, which goes against the values prevalent during their upbringings. The only thing I was really trying to illustrate, was that in Western Culture, while it may be socially acceptable for a woman to wear "a man's watch", the same society would still attach stigma to a man who wore "a woman's watch", without seeing the double standard being applied. Hee hee, I think the Secret Initiation Ritual would conflict with my religious beliefs

:lol:I wish Only a rep, but as I collect movie memorabelia, including 'watches from the movies', this one falls into that catagory, so I wanted the strap to be as close to Orlando's as possible