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Champagnesky

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  1. 56 minutes ago, hugop said:


    I have both his 7016 and 7021 cases and they are perhaps the best aftermarket case for the vintage Tudor out there. Phong typically uses ETA 2789 movements which are the last iteration of the 2784 that Tudor originally used in the 9401 and 9411. The later 7016 used a 2783 which was the 2784 with no date. The place where I feel Phong could improve is in the area of his handset and dial. The hands are out of proportion when compared to gen. Hour and minute hands too fat and the second hand diamond falls in the wrong place. Tail of the second hand is also tapered out too wide in the back. Remember that Tudor offered three dial versions during the life of the 7016. Pre 1968 the rose dial like the 7928 was available and later the shild dial with roung indices and also the snowflake. This really opens up your available options when searching for a gen dial. (They are becoming rare) The dial is nice enough but this case calls for a gen dial or at least a MQ for sure. Add to that a set of onlinestorehk hands, gen 703, gen T19, gen insert, gen bracelet and you have a real winner! In the end you will still have half the cost of buying a gen in the watch.

    So considering all the above would I buy the Phong? Yes! I have two of them and if there was a third vintage Tudor I had an urge to build I would buy another.

    Here are a few pics of my 7021 build which is the same case but with 7021 engraving. The bezel is the Clark watch parts bezel. Dail, crown, 93150 bracelet and endlinks are gen. 2784 movement sourced as NOS and serviced by Misekped. Cost to reproduce $2500-3000. (Depends greatly on dial and phong case cost) 7edd9ed74eca5b7152f4f3a833db219b.jpga25c8a1ce157aa14818f2b40ec2a8dc6.jpg6e6a20c07c6185fe4d494e85a3b82139.jpg3d74af0966c1a5798161905ff95f03ce.jpg

    I guess I could have just said buy one you will love it!

    (Bit I feel there are too many nondescript posts these days)

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    thanks for the info buddy! that watch looks stunning. I was kinda hoping that it was as good as it gets out of the box for 1100 dollars :)

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  2. Here are some photos that show the difference.  The big difference  between a 702 and 703 is the added o-ring around the outside base of the 703 tube.  So the inside of the 703 crown has to be smooth there to seal against the o-ring.  The 702 has no o-ring in that position so the inside of the 702 crown is threaded to the base. 
     
    Here's a cutaway view of a 702, you can see the threads at the base of the tube, and matching threads inside the crown.
     
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    Here's a 702 set, with the threads visible
     
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    Here's a comparison photo side by side, 702 and 703
     
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    Here's the smooth inner walls of the 703 where it seals on the o-ring
     
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    Thx Nanuq its a 703 i have then. IT fitted on a tc tube I had, but it has a lot of dirt inside so I will need to clean it. Will add some teflon grease inside too.


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  3. 10 hours ago, Nanuq said:

    It looks like the brass threads extend to the base on the inside. Is that so, or is there a smooth area below the threads, that would seal against an o-ring? That tells you if it's a 702 vs a 703. You'll need the corresponding tube.

     

    Also looks like you'll have trouble getting it to screw onto a stem.

     

     

    10 hours ago, hugop said:

    Maybe a 703? I have installed several vintage 703 crowns on my MBWs, JKFs and Vietnam cases and have had to put 7030 tubes in for them. The 702 crowns require a 7020 where the threads are closer to the case and the tube has a taller [censored] above the threads. So threads up in the crown 703. Threads close to the edge of the crown 702. Both tubes are available from clark for a inexpensive price on the bay.

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     thx mates, i assume its a 703 crown. I think the it has a lot of dirt inside so i will give it a go in a ultrasonic cleaner. I have a teflon grease i can also use.

  4. What vintage crown is this?

    Hi everyone! Ive tried to fit an old crown that I got from a friend on my newly acquired mbw 1680. Unfortunately it didnt fit on the mbw tube. It didnt fit on other tubes i had from cartel either. What crown is this and what tube should i get?

     

     

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