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1) You were informed by another person that the watch-wearer told them it's a rep 2) You eventually received a confession from the watch-wearer 3) You later saw a "tell" detail which you didn't catch the first time Many ways. EDIT: As seen by the "dagger" oops in another thread, I am not at that level of eagle-eyedness, so I am sure I have been fooled many times. But recently, a chap posted a photo of his PAM 005, and someone said, "Gen right?", because of the "mosca" placement. I'm not sure, but I believe he got it wrong.

GOOD! GRAZIE COSI TANTI, SSsurfer. I was vacillating between emailing DSN back that, never mind, I'll solve it locally -- or -- telling him I expect him to FIX this watch, since aesthetically as you can see, it is nearly flawless. That's what hurts. If it were a POS (or in Italian, POM) I wouldn't care. But its beauty is mocking me, saying, HAHA, idiot child. You believe in happy endings like the Mickey Mouse watch, huh? I'll teach you! ...not that I usually hear voices from watches. Much. EDIT: Whew, I'm getting back my sense of humour and proportion. THANK YOU GUYS! God, that Freud fella was really on to something when he realised people have to talk out their probs, huh? EDIT #2 REPLY: "If he doesn't, let us know. I am currently offering free consulences to DSN on some projects of his, and I'll behave accordingly on how he will behave with you." OOOH. The cavalry have arrived!! I am so so very blessed to have you guys on my side. Quick, someone make me laugh before I start to cry...damn woman waterworks. EDIT #3 REPLY: You have PM, caro mio. AND THANK YOU ABOUT DI SICA TOO! I can't believe I forgot that film... EDIT #4 REPLY: Well, no email reply as yet, but then I don't really expect poor DSN (I mean the "poor" bit, it's not sarcasm, he does work very hard) to work on a Sunday, a this time, 7:00 PM his time. Let me try to sleep. When I woke up in the middle of the night, due to my now messed up biological clock -- big f-you very much to rep watch collecting -- I decided to change my Fiddy strap (?!). This is when this whole sorry mess was noticed. But tomorrow is another day! In China.

Oh, is that Marizhooana, the doobage? Wow, awesome, Volker! Medicinal purposes entirely, of course.

Don't forget your hat. (HEY! I had to get you for that picky inference. Not that you were wrong...........) Volker must be a master leathermaker, because those lines, with bad eyesight and all, are DEAD STRAIGHT. That leather is fantastic too. Seriously, I'm down for one. This below is a strap I'd love to see others try variations on: That's Savage's prototype for his new "Tailhook". I hope he doesn't mind my posting this, but I think he'll realise it might just generate interest...sweet sweet strap.

DSN did turn out to be a good guy. He's not terribly polished, like Andrew and Joshua (OH NO! DUCK, THE CARTEL!) but he tries, bless him. A second replacement, third watch? Like that member who posted in the Trade Review saying he sent his back 3 times before it was right? This I expect from Paul. Heck, I'm jubilant if I even GET a watch from, Paul. BUT DAVIDSEN? Yeesh. I just don't get it. Even my genuinely revered Andrew messed up an order that was SO easy to spot before putting it in the box to send out (and yes, he promised me that he would, since it was for my dad). EDIT: Don't mention the d-word! I know. I told him, I know you will take care of me if anything goes wrong, but just please please check it before sending it out to me. He said yes, and whammo. Great guy, he sent a replacement LIKE THAT, but these things are almost too easy to spot before sending them out. Guys, with this lack of quality control in this and other items, China will NEVER catch up to the West. It's like it's not important to them, somehow. Tourby, I said I was scared of modders, but you are a forum member I respect (The Zigmeister too!). If only you were in the US, baby...thanks for the kind word in reply. ;(

I mean this genuinely, because I am happy for others around me, that I couldn't be more thrilled for you. No one should have to go through these pinpricks of bothers when you pay so much. That you didn't, AWESOME! And hey! Great strap. I still have a 217h...if you make some, I'll buy one from you.

I know, I know. I definitely deserved that. The girl who wants just everything right...only this time, I think I have a LITTLE more cause for complaint. I'm not going to send it to The Zigmeister. I'm scared of modders at the moment. I'll try to sort things out with DSN first, and if no joy there, give it and more of my money to a watchsmith...

Maybe. Maybe he can't keep up with orders anymore. Maybe he has made a lot of money, and is starting to slack. Maybe a lot of new clients are not his concern anymore, but just maintaining the older, less demanding (?) ones. Or maybe he just doesn't care about me. This last bit just forget before you even finish reading it. It's just my sadness talking, Fitmic. Thanks for the reply, though.

First, FxrAndy. Thanks. Means a lot you took the trouble to answer this succinctly, and with a clear eye. Yes, I have no probs with the PAM 112, but I just said that if I had to send two Fiddies back, should I ask DSN to do something about the PAM 112 too? Not that I would send this back BECAUSE of this dimple problem, only. Thanks for the tip. However, this is beyond my powers as a newbie. Me, file? No, I'd do something wrong and ruin it worse. Send it to a watchsmith? Sure, I thought of that. But part of me says I shouldn't have to do this ON A REPLACEMENT whose QC should've been absolute... Two issues. The floppy lever which is very "close" to the crown in the closed position (and frankly, even the open one). And the crown feels loose to the touch, where it is IMPOSSIBLE to pull it out entirely to hear the "click" to set the time. When you pull it out as far as it goes, it just winds the watch, not sets the time.

Guys, maybe I'm just not meant for rep watch buying. Please help me to think clearly because I am bowed over in sadness right now, RWG Paneristi. My DSN Fiddy and PAM 112 arrived earlier Saturday, and I was chatting to the chaps in the Shoutbox of how happy I was, dancing around my comp room like a fool. Everything seemed solved, sealed, delivered by the amazing craftsman that is Davidsen. Because I had already the DSN Fiddy, I will admit to you that I had all of Saturday concentrated on the PAM 112. The lume is fantastic, glowing like the dickens. Aesthetically, I thought it was beautiful, and VERY close to the gen. So I shot off an email to DSN thanking him PROFUSELY and with genuine gratefulness...and it turns out, prematurely. BIG MISTAKE. The DSN REPLACEMENT Fiddy has: - A completely loose Crown Guard lever, which is a breath away from opening loose every time I move it. - Worse, a Crown which doesn't come out all the way, and therefore, the time cannot be set. I could EVEN tolerate the crown guard lever (yes, I've tired screwing it tighter, GENTLY. Remember, I had this problem with Paul's horrific Mini-Fiddy, so I know what I should do). But how can I tolerate a crown which cannot be pulled out enough to allow time-setting?? Lord, Jesus, give me strength! ON A REPLACEMENT FIDDY YET! ...anyway, pics. Fiddy, PAM 112 Package Arrival: Fiddy Arrival (Note the time): Back of Movement: Photo taken 15 minutes ago (Note the time -- I can't set it): I'm awaiting an email reply from Davidsen, hopefully, somehow giving me hope he'll put things right. Also, in the meantime, I've noticed that the CG "dimple" on the PAM 112 is less than flush as in the original, and the printing of "Luminor...Panerai" is not so good. Mine: Normally, I'd be content just that I got a nice PAM 112, because it's beautiful. But if it turns out that I need to send back my TWO FIDDIES, do you counsel me to send back the PAM 112 for such a detail? By the way, certain things I requested (like specific straps, and some other things), were not sent either. He didn't reply to that earlier at all, merely saying "Enjoy your watches". Sigh. Really, guys, I'm sorry to trouble you, but I need your support, and your clear thoughts, because I have none at the moment. Apart from all of this, I'm out $$$, and still don't have a single good DSN watch to my name...

Premature replyculation, TT. Sorry about the misread. (snip) EWWW!! Herm

Maybe he was! :lol: No, seriously. She tried returning it to the shop, but other countries' return policies are not the same as in the good ole US of A. They said it was used, and that they smelt perfume on it, so not even store credit. I think she took it eventually to a consignment shop. Not sure what happened there, but their marriage has survived.

I'm sure there are others, and for other players, but when I used to use Classic Winamp, I used "Streamripper". You can regulate the quality, and thus the output in MBs. And believe me, 30 mins worth can be a HUGE amount of MBs. http://all-streaming-media.com/record-vide...cast-ripper.htm

Before I answer, is this something a committee will have to approve?

Poor TT. You're not the first guy to fall under the "buying the wife a nice purse" dustbin of bad taste. Look no further than my father, who went out and bought this Christian Laboutin bag [ R ], because he was sadly mistaken about quality women's purses. Looks like Sasquatch mated with Christina Onassis and gave birth to Cousin It from the Addams Family. Ay.

Or a kangaroo court... (Okay, that was too harsh. I apologise. But really peeps, committees and what-not are just there for power trips, or devolve into them eventually. We have Mods, we have logic and brains. Let's use both to buy reps, no?)

WHAT NO WAY! Carlsbadrolex that's an awesome first effort. Even the proficient FxrAndy's first effort wasn't as good. After you divorce your wife (for buying a DOONEY & BURKE purse, WTF!), I wish you many many happy sales of that strap, once proficiency is gained. I'm down for one already.

Finally, TT. People understand about letting threads go, and letting people vent, but it was about time, IMHO, that one of you guys said this.

You know what? Over at RWI they have a "situation" where their founder has to all intents and purposes absconded from their forum, with people's money. Now, he's a person who did a lot for them, and they feel he must be in distress to have done that without so much as a word (the other mods have taken over, and vowed to replace the moneys or goods...out of pocket...). And yet they said were he ever to return, he would be welcomed back to the fold, which I found astonishing -- both in the best sense (because of his reputation was obviously so good before, that it carries him forward in honour; and their trust in him, which speaks the world of them as decent people), and in the not so good sense. But I'd like to see one person here stick up for "the cartel" if they were to do that. No one would. And rightly so. A committee on RWG for a case-by-case basis of grievances, or an eye on what transpires in deals with ALL dealers, including our in-house dealers, plus strap vendors, etc. Great. Count me in to shoulder any burden of responsibility, to use JFK's ringing phrase. But not a committee whose sole purpose is eventually and merely to "ban" vendors, after one miscue, or a dozen. I wouldn't even want Paul banned just because I've soured on him, with good reason (see related thread). PRACTICAL SUGGESTION: Can a RWG computer whizz figure out a form which we fill out, with a series of questions asked online (perhaps in its own forum, which can be reviewed by VIPs or all members, as part of this forum's purpose), such as: Collector's name? Date of beginning transaction (when you bought goods), date of ending transaction (when you received goods) Emails answered promptly? Problems with items' received quality control? Grievances answered by email promptly? Refund offered, return suggestion, product reshipped? Out of pocket expenses by buyer? Did the new item arrive in good order? Rate this transaction, from 1 (extremely dissatisfied) to 10 (extremely satisfied) Etc. ADDENDUM: If anything from 1-3 is given, obviously the worst ratings, then there could be an area where you could present supporting documentation, as well as photo uploads of the items in question -- that will reduce just bad-mouthing on all fronts. This is just me thinking as I go, not some rubric of how things should be. But since we're flinging suggestions, and the word ban around, let's do things right, before a good idea becomes a bad one.

DUDE, she's 15, 16 tops. Yes, I was bright when I was 16 too, but let's not forget how it was when we were young. Anyway, why do Americans love doing this to themselves? You think the French ever put up videos of their populace being dumb, like Jaywalking skits? Ask a typical Frenchman on the street to pick out Tulsa or Tucson on a map. I'll wait.

Question: Why do all Eastern Europeans sound like him? No, seriously. Even the women. Tired of yelling after busses all day?

OKAY! I sense a little gender imbalance in this thread, regarding stupidity. So here is a Youtube segment called Bodybuilder TV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97kr5tqUQog (What's up with the chicken?)

Wow, you can't say [censored], but you can say ass? Where's the logic, my friends?

This cannot be stated enough. TeeJay is a man of passion about this topic, but didn't, that I saw or interpreted, ONCE stoop to insulting those he disagreed with. And may I say, it is he alone that has had to defend his position, given the the title header. Sure, others are in agreement and also expressed similar opinions about LWL (to use SSsurfer's acronym). But it is TeeJay who is front and centre in this debate, and I'd say his demeanour remains the same -- on point. Keep the change.

Let's just say she wouldn't make my Top 10 people to clone genetically (she even slightly resembles Fugly sister act, Jessica Simpson!). But you know, posing questions of these Misses in these beauty pagaents is so not fair. It's like going up to contestants in the Mr. Apollo contest, and asking them to point out Dubai on a globe. Instead of crushing a globe between their thighs, obviously.