hooky

so i guess you have the 42mm. Always measure without crown. Some time ago i also had the 42mm. I like it better than the 45. More neat.

The fact that the rep is SS, probably would get noticed before any non glowing hands anyway...

And what will irritate more with daily use, having only one lume hand, so you absolutely have NO idea what time it is.... Haha... Wish they also made the other hand with no lume. that would be better.

The yellow hand on the yellow watch has NO lume.

The white Aquatimer has lume on both hour hand and minute hand. Had that one before before and the quality was awesome. Hands just rep lume

I had the yellow and was quite dissapointed. Will sell the watch...

I am no expert here, but if you need to give more feedback. Could be simple, but also more difficult problem.

For pictures, you should open the caseback, maybe best to remove the rotor as well, to have a better view. Careful there.

Picture of when the movement is in the chrono stop setting, before resetting. Can the lever of the reset button touch the other lever while in 'stop' setting? Maybe you can take a pic of that. That is my best guess, to give feedback to the other experts to this forum.

Cheers and good luck,

J.

I also had crystal explosion on the PAM253. Twice. It is a common known problem. From my dealer i bought a new case with glass. Just 25-30usd excl. shipping, mineral glass on the PAM253.

Bad thing it happened to me while drinking coffee with family and friends. All laughing about my 'bad quality' reps.....

Cheers,

Jouke

Yes, Mikael, post us some pictures of the movement in running chrono position and when you have the resetpusher (almost) pushed in.

Then we might conclude better...

that is fully acceptable for automatic watches. See also the post of 'Surpur'. And that is even for certified chronometers (not chronograph). Still are aware that these watches are replica's. Even when there is Swiss movement inside, that movement is not totally cleaned, oiled and fully adjusted as in a gen...

What is the result if you put the watch away for 12 hours, upside down instead of upside up?

Even gens are allowed to have a few seconde more or less per day.

Already fixed the problem.

Had to take hands and dial off. Then get the other parts of like the date wheel, etc, to get to the parts what the crown stem works with. Fixed the problem and put all together again. Not a perfect movement...

Cheers,

J.

You could also let the A7750 being completely serviced. (cleaning, oiling, adjusting) Some experts say that after doing that, then there is not much difference with the Swiss in terms of accuracy, durability, etc.

On this forum there are experts who also service A7750's.

I have bought an IWC 3717 with an A7750 movement. The watch works OK since a week (+1-2 min/day though).

I have tried the chrono and it works OK, starting and stopping. But at some occasions the reset does not work. The first time it happened after 10 tries, then it happen a week later.

Either it does not reset at all, sometimes it resets half the back to twelve, and sometimes it stops anywhere else (ie passes 12 and stops at eight o'clock,..). The subdials also fails to reset. When it works it stops exactly at 12.

Last time I had to struggle a lot (Let the watch run for many hours or the chrono, adjust the watch via the crown/stem and then again try to reset.)

I have tried this without being too rough. I have not changed the dates when the time had been between 9-3, I have not reset the chrono when running it.

My questions:

1. Why is this happening? Is something broken? Or is it not lubricated?

2. Is it common? Is common on swiss movements or is only A7550?

2. Can it get worse? Is it dangerous to retry when it fails?

Right now I don't dare to touch the chrono anymore. At least I have a decent watch to tell me the time, but it is annoying that the chrono is not working properly.

When reading around in RWG I can see that some think the quality is poor on A7750 movements, but others claim the quality is very good. Right now I at least can not recommend

A7750.

Regards Mikael

Hi Mikael,

don't know how technical you are with the watch already, since you are also a new member. You could try to open the case back and see if the Chrono device on top of the movement is functioning correctly. Maybe by that you could give this forums members more info to help you.

The chrono seconds could be slipping. That could be easily fixed by a watch smith i guess. Otherwise you could consider sending the watch back to the dealer for repair.

Where did you order the spring?

Bought it at my local dealer from China. So far i did not get a confirm that the spring is there. But i asked a couple of times, so i guess it will be ok. By the end of this week i will receive it, so we'll see then. Will keep you posted.

You could ask one of the other dealers like Andrew if he can get them as well.

Gr,

J.

Hi,

had the same problem with a Panerai Ferrari FER004. Pusher and spring. I ordered a new pusher and the spring and it will be delivered by the end of the week.

If any news by then, will keep that posted...

Hi there my fellow watch friends,

Needing help with a crown stem inserting problem on the '2813' asian 21j automatic in a Bell & Ross BR02 'gold' plated.

Inserting works, so far, but when inserted it the watch is in the 'mode' of adjusting time and i cannot push the stem further in the movement. Pulling it back when inserted also does not give anything.

I took the stem out by using pressing the release button for the stem, while the watch was in the winding (standard) mode.

Normally the time adjusting mode is the second click, the date adjusting mode is the first click. This first click also does not work. So now no use. I tried both with and without pressing the release button for inserting the stem. It is inserted, but does not function as it should....

Does someone has any ideas??? Please, need help, I love this watch!

Cheers,

Jouke

Hi all,

have been looking for a 40mm PAM with stainless steel strap, but it seems the 40mm PAM is now only available with leather strap and not with ss bracelet.

What is your experience with this? I contacted both Andrew (TWG) and my other dealer. Both stating that it was not available...

Has someone of you one spare bracelet? who knows...

Any news from you guys?

Thanks!

Jouke

What damage is or can be caused by resetting a running chronograph? I've always wondered.

Chief, maybe this is off topic, but here is my answer.

i am certainly not an expert, but i had hands on experience with this. It happened to a friends PAM253 with an A7750, which i got for him from China.

He was trying to reset the chrono while it was running. If you push normally, you would not see anything happen. I guess it is somehow protected. But this guy, also did not see anything happen, so he increased the force used on the reset button. Bang! broken.

Not really broken, but what happened is that the lever of the chronograph module got stuck behind the other lever of the running chrono. That other lever would not have been in that position when the chrono was first stopped after starting it. You could take a look at some of your own watches with open case back, chrono and 7750.

To get back to your question, what damage could be caused...

In the end no damage was done. The movement had to be taken out of the case, the chronomodule had to be taken off/deinstalled to get the reset button lever back to its normal position.

Luckily this guy did not inflict any more damage. He even used a plier on the reset button to try to get the lever back. Just think of the damage he could have done... broken lever, etc.

Cheers,

Jouke

Rolexman,

Thank you for your excellent post and for sharing your knowledge!! With these guideline, it will definately get the job done.

I will do it, and then will bring it to my local watch smith, to test waterproofing. Before, it could take nearly 5 bar. Hopefully now a couple of bar more.

When it is done, i will post it on this forum.

Thanks again Rolexman, You rock!!!

Jouke

Hahaa

Best joke of the day so far. Keep it up Offshore!

@Rolexman,

Would you like to elaborate on this stage of the procedure?

These can be a serious mongrel to remove....I have my own technique..... and the replace stage....but would be interested in others technique!

Offshore

Thanks Rolex!

i just removed the movement and all. looking at that C clip with my loupe. Those are some really tiny mothers.

How did you remove them? even a pair of small tweezers can hardly get a grip. Could use a tiny screwdriver, but i do not want to break them. What is your procedure?

Thanks man!

BUMP

Bump? Bump what??

Hi guys,

I have a couple of PAM and FER.

when they arrived, i used to directly oil the O rings of the caseback and the crown stem. I greased them with Swiss Bergean sticky grease.

The one thing i do not know how to protect are those CHRONO PUSHERS.

Anyone has an idea if the chronopushers also can be protected, for maintenance, to keep them waterproofed, even after a couple of years?

For instance, can the pushers be removed to be able to get to the rubbers inside these chrono pushers?

Thanks,

Jouke

Just a couple of times I did handwind the automatic watches. I remember looking through the sapphire case back, seeing those gears spin like crazy. Really fast while winding it. I already thought that this speed would possibly not be too good for the movement, while normally it would take ages to let the gears rotate a couple of times when being wound automatically.

The Zigmeister really put it together once again, explaining in detail how it works. Thank you so much for the info Rob!

I use Bergeon KT 22 grease on the O rings.

Hi,

I have the PAM253 with Chrono.

I swim with it, also shower. Before doing so i had it waterproof tested. When i opened the caseback and removed the crown stem, i saw that none of the O rings were greased to fully protect against water. So i greased them with Bergean sticky grease.

The one thing i do not know how to protect are those CHRONO PUSHERS.

Anyone has an idea if the chronopushers also can be protected, for maintenance, to keep them waterproofed, even after 5 years??

Hi,

I have the PAM253 with Chrono.

I swim with it, also shower. Before doing so i had it waterproof tested. When i opened the caseback and removed the crown stem, i saw that none of the O rings were greased to fully protect against water. So i greased them with Bergean sticky grease.

The one thing i do not know how to protect are those CHRONO PUSHERS.

Anyone has an idea if the chronopushers also can be protected, for maintenance, to keep them waterproofed, even after 5 years??