jmb Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I received my date wheel from Cubic Works ( http://www.cubic-works.com/ ) yesterday and will probably try to glue it onto one of the new tall canon 4813 movements I recently received from eurotimez. When I asked about date wheels the suggestion for this part indicated it was OK but had open sixes and nines. They have appartently change their design as I received a wheel with closed sizes and nines. This is what it looks like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 What are you planning on installing this movement into? Vintage, or modern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Most likely into my Noobmariner so I suspect that makes it "modern". They have another date wheel which is sort of "yellowed" which might be for vintage pieces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Okay... If you were going to stab this into a vintage, I was going to say that the flat top 3 datewheel that Chris has would be a better fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Most likely into my Noobmariner so I suspect that makes it "modern". They have another date wheel which is sort of "yellowed" which might be for vintage pieces... The closed 6 and 9 will be correct for the noob. The yellowed version is for TT or gold models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The 'old' datewheels from Cubic Works w/ the open 6's and 9's are a thing of the past, I believe. For the last 2-3 years it's been the modern datewheels. Kinda like lugholes in Sub cases, they've all but disappeared. China is going modern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 alli, I noticed that. The picture on their web site shows open 6 and 9 but what I received is closed. Maybe if I e-mailed them they might have some "old stock" laying around for vintage projects. Slick, Oh, didn't know there was a difference the picture just looks like it was a simulated "age yellowing". Why can't they leave a good thing be!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Most of the threads that reference Cubic's datewheels contain disclaimers (from those who purchased them) warning that, contrary to the pics on their website, the date wheels they are shipping out have closed 6s & 9s. However, as others have said, the Noob is a copy of a current model, which uses closed 6/9 fonts on its datewheel, so you should be fine. Guidelines for Rolex Datewheel colors Steel watches always have datewheels with a white backgroundYellow gold & two-tone watches always have datewheels with a champagne (tan/yellowish) background If you are looking at a gen & it does not follow these guidelines, then it is either not a gen or the movement has been recased. This is 1 of the few rules for which I have yet to see an (proven) exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 alli, I noticed that. The picture on their web site shows open 6 and 9 but what I received is closed. Maybe if I e-mailed them they might have some "old stock" laying around for vintage projects. It's worth a try. Another option might be to ask Chris at Eurotimez if he could get the old MBW datewheel w/ open 6/9's- not the new older one w/ flat-top 3's and open 6/9's. The open 6/9's, round top 3's was used for 16800's, 16014's, 16013's and 16030's- all the models from the 80's that used the 3035 movt. Freddy's rules are generally true, but even Rolex doesn't always follow them! For example, the FG YM 16628 with the white dial and black onyx markers usually has a white datewheel. But trying to figure out Rolex can be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 You are right Alli. The latest datejust line also have white datewheel, even the gold ones. guess it has something to do with streamlining the production line in order to maximize profit. example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Freddy's rules are generally true, but even Rolex doesn't always follow them! For example, the FG YM 16628 with the white dial and black onyx markers usually has a white datewheel. But trying to figure out Rolex can be tough. Thanks, Alli. That IS definitely an exception, which shows 1 of the holes in my modern Rolex knowledgebase. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Slick, when I was in the computer industry I was on the engineering change control board for a major manufacturer and changes like this were titled "cost reduction"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Haha... you are right, english is not my native tongue, it gets worse after a couple of beers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Slick, your English is just fine, cost reduction is "bean-counter" for "streamlining the production line in order to maximize profit"! Plus, they were probably tired of creating "collector's items" because their highly skilled workforce put the wrong parts in on occasion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I am sure of this - the exceptions would have been done for aesthetic reasons (Rolex Design probably just felt some dials looked better with white datewheels instead of the usual champagne), not cost cutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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