16610 Insert

[omgiv]

I just got this insert for a 16610 Submariner and wanted to double check that it was genuine. I have no reason to believe that it isn't, but you never know these days. The 50 spacing looks very close to the edge and the 4 looks different that my SD. But I have seen 4's look like that on other genuine inserts. Let me know if the pictures aren't good enough to tell and I will see what I can do. Thanks!!!

[iceberg1459]

not genuine imho, markers too thick and pearl looks off

[Mickey Padge]

not genuine imho, markers too thick and pearl looks off

I have to agree, that pearl looks odd, could be the flash photography though, never helps.....

[lanikai]

after market..

who did you get it from, and how much did you pay , if you don't mind me asking ??

Wholesaleoutlet??

On the bay ??

[omgiv]

Here are a couple of more pictures with the flash turned off, and a comparison next to the SD. I paid the price for a genuine insert but will be very unhappy if this is indeed aftermarket.

[highoeyazmuhudee]

looks NON GENUINE. pearl is too sloppy and font is too thick...numbers also crowd the edge too much. pearl also looks misaligned to the right . if it were gen it would be for the older style 16610 cause of the squared 4, so if it was sold as brand new right away that should tell you

yours looks like the aftermarket one I bought for $10 (right) compare with gen print and pearl (left)

[Mickey Padge]

Sorry, but it does not look genuine...

[nakortheblue]

IMO, pearl is too white. Gen should be somewhat translucent?

[omgiv]

Thanks guys. I will email the seller and see what he says.

[Mickey Padge]

Have you compared luminosity too? Bet it won't be anything like your gen....

[HauteHippie]

Don't think it's genuine, but could be wrong. Could be the photography. It's the older version with trapezoidal 4 in 40, though... and you don't see that in aftermarket inserts much. So we could all be wrong.

Here's the gen insert I put in my 16610 with lug holes. It's the correct older insert, which also has the trapezoidal 4, for the pre-F serial subs...

[omgiv]

No, it doesn't glow like the SD.

[Mickey Padge]

No, it doesn't glow like the SD.

Bingo!

[HauteHippie]

Here's a newer version gen insert for post-F serial subs that I had lying around for a while.... Notice the triangular 4.

[indyberetta]

That is for sure not a gen insert. The numbers are the biggest flaw imho.

I hope you didn't pay too much for it...more like a $20 insert.

I wish Rolex had placed some better markings on the backside of the inserts to make them easier to determine gen.

Funny thing though...I bet that 99% of gen owners would not know the difference!

[mjmj]

I don't think it looks genuine.

[preacher62]

My biggest complaint is that most all of the aftermarket inserts have an incorrect "2". As the number goes over the top and then starts down next to the "0" it goes straight down almost to the middle of the "0". This is not correct. The gen insert just goes down about 1/5 of the way. I'm just picky, but I don't see why an aftermarket insert would not be correct, but none are.

Edited February 23, 2010 by preacher62

[omgiv]

HI Guys,

The insert is indeed aftermarket. The person that sold it thought that it was genuine but realized it wasn't after I pointed out all of the things that you all saw. He is going to make it right, but I appreciate all of the input. It looked off in my eyes, but it is nice to have the expert opinions here. Thanks!!!!

[highoeyazmuhudee]

great expert community here, had this been a gen forum they'd still be scratching their heads..(yeah I know im exaggerating )

[omgiv]

Here is a second try at a 16610 insert. This one looks better to me but your eyes would make me feel better. Thanks!!!!

[nakortheblue]

Pearl looks better, IMO. I'm not an expert on the numbering, though.

[omgiv]

Thanks for the eyes!!! The font on the numbers looks a little thinner than some that I have seen the but the shapes look right to me. Hopefully some others will chime in. Thanks again!!!

[TeeJay]

Based on above comments, I'd say the 2 in 20 looks good (not that I'm an expert )

[Mickey Padge]

Looks better, but how is the pearl lume?

[omgiv]

It glows, but without something to compare it to side by side I don't know how well. I think that I will be much happier with this insert. Thanks guys!!!