Finepics Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I had the fortune to handle a gen PAM 86 yesterday belonging to a friend so was able to really have a good look a it and to my suprise the CG lever was all loose and wobbly and hardly pressed the crown against the case at all when shut - so much so I had to look really close to make sure it was a gen (of course it was as they have not repped this one yet). When we review reps and complain about the CG's we have got it all wrong!! So now I will have to rip all the Jimmy's CG's off and put the rep ones back on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 You're kidding about the last part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oswald Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just goes to show that our reps are good watches and with a little tweaking can be GREAT watches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovepanerai Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just goes to show that our reps are good watches and with a little tweaking can be GREAT watches! ...and that our judgement is largely based on assumption rather than facts; I bought a gen PAM025 and I agree with Finepics that the lever is not pressing hard against the crown. I wouldn't describe the lever as loose and wobbly, but definetly not as tight as I expected it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 My gens' lever are pressed very nicely (& tightly) on the crown. No problemo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovepanerai Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 My gens' lever are pressed very nicely (& tightly) on the crown. No problemo. which gen do you have? Have you shared any pics here? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tech Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I am a little surprised by that as the CG levers are tight and have solid feel to them when closing them on both my gens. My reps CG levers suck and are extremely flimsy. How do I get my hands on these JIMMYS CGs.... cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 which gen do you have? Have you shared any pics here? thanks Check yr PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 My gen is also nice and firm, and far from wobbly.. The JimmyFu CG seems tighter than my gen, but tighter doesn't *always* mean better lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usil Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I bought a PAM 86 from Andrew in February, so surprised to here they are not repping them yet. Usil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spock Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 This is the first time i've red this abouth a pam gen lever/crown. I've seen a lot of gen Pams and the lever/crowns were great. Also the winding of the movements, very smooth. Maybe you had a bad one but this is exceptional, i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdo2milger Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 i want this "jimmy cg" too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 My gen's CG is very tight as well.. Far from loose and wobbly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robideaux Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 i handled a gen submersible 24 i beleive and the lever was loose, but not as much as some reps i've handled. also it was not so tight against the crown. also there seemed to be no crown springiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doopey Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I am a little surprised by that as the CG levers are tight and have solid feel to them when closing them on both my gens. My reps CG levers suck and are extremely flimsy. How do I get my hands on these JIMMYS CGs.... cheers Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 The Jimmy CG gives me every bit as good a feel when opening as a gen. Also Ziggy does something to the standard crown guards so they open and shut smoothly and firmly. The little rubber sleeve on the Jimmy makes all the difference on feel when opening though. I never took my gen CG apart but I assumed it had a rubber sleeve like the Jimmy's do. But I have always maintained that a watch is a watch. If put together and serviced properly a high end rep may not be as good as a gen in terms of finish but should be just fine in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I have an OEM guard on my 051, and I have had many gen PAMs on my wrist. On A-F series PAMS, aside front he fit and finish differences you'd expect to be able to see during a close inspection, the only easy "tell" is the much more aggressive brushing on OEM levers. My review: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showto...d,oem,and,guard Any Panerai owner can immediately spot the differences between H series rep and gen guards, though, and I wish the rep makers would just bite the buller and redesign the guards on the H series reps instead of just brushing the old versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tech Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Jimmy Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Wel the other one I got to handle was a PAM 140 (yellow gold with carbon fibre dial) and this was almost as bad but not as bad!! The 086 was a regular wearer for the owner so may just have worn!! I have sectional drawings showing a CG parts diagram and there certainly is some sort of sleeve around the pin so Jimmy's are certainly more close to a brand new gen (far from ripping them off I have just taken delivery of fresh ones!!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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