monkeypie Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Got a secs@12 a weeks ago and now its starting to show problems. Runs perfectly fine with massive power reserve when placed dial face down. But when facing up right, such as on the wrist, it last at most 20 minutes and requires a shake to start again. Is this a sign that it is about to fail? Is there a remedy? I don't like in the USA, so shipping it off to get it serviced is rather difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverworn Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 where are you from? because we got a perfect watchsmith here in the eu.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Got a secs@12 a weeks ago and now its starting to show problems. Runs perfectly fine with massive power reserve when placed dial face down. But when facing up right, such as on the wrist, it last at most 20 minutes and requires a shake to start again. Is this a sign that it is about to fail? Is there a remedy? I don't like in the USA, so shipping it off to get it serviced is rather difficult. some info here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallraen Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 yes, i read about how the movement works in francisco post, it seems to be effective and a good 'mod' i am intending to send my AP EOD for this improvement, once i receive my watch from the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannou Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 I have an AP black theme that is in modding..we are trying to add 2 more jewels on the modded plate...I will let you know how it works.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallraen Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 hey yannou, who's doing the mod? that is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I have an AP black theme that is in modding..we are trying to add 2 more jewels on the modded plate...I will let you know how it works.... if you read my tuto you will discover that friction is not stopping your watch... it is an assembling problem. Friction could only causes problems at a very long period. regards, Francisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannou Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) if you read my tuto you will discover that friction is not stopping your watch... it is an assembling problem. Friction could only causes problems at a very long period. regards, Francisco Yes Francisco but we will see what could be the improvement.. Edited May 12, 2010 by Yannou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bTrizzy Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 if you read my tuto you will discover that friction is not stopping your watch... it is an assembling problem. Friction could only causes problems at a very long period. regards, Francisco I think my ROO is also having this problem. Do you think this can be handled easily by a watchsmith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think my ROO is also having this problem. Do you think this can be handled easily by a watchsmith? well, if he has the tools, the skill and my tuto: I have done this to about a dozen of APs...some of them were dead. And all of them are working now. Regards, Francisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thogaa Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 I can surely vouch for Fransisco's mod. Since I got it back I've been wearing my Safari ROO that now works brilliantly for two weeks! Ace work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 I can surely vouch for Fransisco's mod. Since I got it back I've been wearing my Safari ROO that now works brilliantly for two weeks! Ace work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Four of my APs are going to Francisco next week for the mod... Kinda bummed as they will be off my wrist during the down time....But his work is worth the wait...Well worth it IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usctrojans11 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Honest opinion Francisco. Which do you think is a better option. Modding the secs @12 the way you describe or replacing with a swiss eta (does it suffer from the same problems, like a-b gear connection?)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallraen Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 a swiss eta does not have the seconds running at 12 but at 9. currently the only way the ap watches get the seconds at 12 is by the chinese movements, which has to be modded/re-assembled properly. i am interested to know how domi adds these jewels to the movement but i can't seem to get a response from guru. i would like to compare these 2 methods of modding to see which one is more effective and lasting. i will send my ap for francisco's mod once i receive a better piece (with a more centered datewheel) from my dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usctrojans11 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 What exactly does Domi do? He gets secs @12 on a swiss eta? Is that unheard of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Honest opinion Francisco. Which do you think is a better option. Modding the secs @12 the way you describe or replacing with a swiss eta (does it suffer from the same problems, like a-b gear connection?)? Well, I would like people to find their own conclusions. For that reason, all the info why APs are failing is shown in this tuto: swapping to an ETA will not solve assembling problems. adding a jewel to the plate is an improvement, better than polishing, of course. However, following video shows that jerking movement is produced in the first gear couple. This video was taken with all the rest the gears removed: However, after the modification, and without jewel, the movement is very smooth: after modification: regards, Francisco Edited May 19, 2010 by Francisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallraen Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 i think domi adds the jewel to the chinese movements, to reduce friction therefore improving the movement. i don't think anyone has come up with a franken movement, eta base with asian plate... but i don't think thats even possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannou Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Guru has finally got the AP ROO Black Theme with an ETA 7750 and jewels added on the chinese modded plate. The difficulty is to find the right thickness of the jewel...Guru has posted the mod on the forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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