cougaree Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Guys My SA and SA BS's AR coatings are incredible, and I've noticed that the AR coating on both watches are described on dealer's website as "Double AR, Swiss standard" What does it mean by Swiss standard? AR coating becomes more and more important to me for some reason, I wonder from now on, I should only buy ones marked with "Swiss standard" I love my Breitling Skyland v3 a lot (serviced by Zigmeister), but it's its blue hue of AR coating starts to bother me. On the dealer's website, its AR coating is decribed only as "double AR" whereas on Skyland v2, it's double AR swiss standard. Can someone tell me if the Skyland v2 has equivalent AR coating as the newest SA/SA BS? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I think Skyland v2 AR coating is incredible. It's almost as great as my gen Fish. However it also has blue hue, whereas my gen Fish is more like purple. But it's not that apparent on either. BCE v3 and my new B01 don't have as great 2xAR. It's good and very decent on both but not as strong as the Skyland. PS: I suspect the factory made the replica blue Fish based on a picture that had purple AR coating reflecting... thus, the blue dial became totally inaccurate blue (read: violet blue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted August 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 BT, Thank you for writing back! On my v3, the blue hue is very apparent (a lot worse than my BCE). Basically I see the hue every time if I'm not looking perpendicular to the crystal. Since the crystal is very hard to be removed off Skyland, I've been seriously thinking about getting new v2. I hear you about the fish dial. They might just use a picture instead of the actual thing. Although the rep AR coating is a bit off for some reason, on this watch, the AR coating doesn't seem to be a major distraction fortunately. But on my Skyland v3, it's pretty noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpie007 Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 BT, Thank you for writing back! On my v3, the blue hue is very apparent (a lot worse than my BCE). Basically I see the hue every time if I'm not looking perpendicular to the crystal. Since the crystal is very hard to be removed off Skyland, I've been seriously thinking about getting new v2. I hear you about the fish dial. They might just use a picture instead of the actual thing. Although the rep AR coating is a bit off for some reason, on this watch, the AR coating doesn't seem to be a major distraction fortunately. But on my Skyland v3, it's pretty noticeable. What you could do is tape off the bezel and tabs and dremel/polish the top AR off the crystal, should be like 15mins work and you'll have a lot less blue hue to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szvwj Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 It almost seems like a crap shoot. I have 2 different V2 BCE's. One has great AR, the other has a really blue tint (way too blue). I removed the exterior AR, but then it reflected too much (it's been sent it in to be re-coated...I'll let you know how that works out). I wish it was easier to remove the crystals from SA's, Skylands and SeaWolfs. I'd love to re-coat the crystals (although the SA AR is pretty darn good!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 It almost seems like a crap shoot. I have 2 different V2 BCE's. One has great AR, the other has a really blue tint (way too blue). I removed the exterior AR, but then it reflected too much (it's been sent it in to be re-coated...I'll let you know how that works out). I wish it was easier to remove the crystals from SA's, Skylands and SeaWolfs. I'd love to re-coat the crystals (although the SA AR is pretty darn good!). I agree, the AR on my two SA's Is very good,not great but like you said "pretty darn good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackR Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 regarding the swiss fish...i am wearing a black dial 2824-2 gold movement model with eta dw (same one BT reviewed) and there's noticeable blue hue...it makes the dial look more dark gray than jet black...and can cast a blue haze over the dial at some angles...but this is somewhat similar to my gen black dial aerospace...the dial looks more dark chocolate brown/charcoal than jet black...not to say the swiss fish has gen ar - because it doesn't...the blue hue on black dials make them look less black... for comparison, the v3 skyland black dial crystal has less of a blue hue; but slightly more reflection... R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 You are right, R. The Skyland crystal doesn't cut reflection very well (sometimes gets annoying). For a watch with too blue AR, maybe it will make a blue dial look even better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackR Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 hey W...that's all i need...another transplant project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mike Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 hey W...that's all i need...another transplant project... No you don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackR Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 'Swiss standard' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think you guys over think this stuff sometimes. There is variation amongst the gens as well. At some point should you just go gen, because the reps never going to make you happy. I'm speaking in general, not to any of you specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheaton26 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 and just a heads up ... i sent my skyland blacksteel for a full mod and chief ar, but The Zigmeister couldn't get the crystal out. therefor it returned with just the mods from The Zigmeister. the stock ar is excellent, but i've been spoiling myself with the chief ar's lately. having said that (curb your enthusiasm), i have heard of people that have had no issues removing their crystals. anyway, just my $0.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 HackR: R, I'm sure you'll have some other projects on your mind even if you don't do the transplant project. Fakemaster: I'm serious. Maybe I drew conclusions too early, but the ones I bought lately with "swiss standard" in their crystal description had much better AR than the ones that doesn't say. P4GTR: It's not about getting a gen. I think all of us have some kind of personal requirements (even on the reps). As for me, crystal with high reflection and very blue hue does sometimes bother me. Wheaton26: Thanks for the heads up! I think if anyone wants to have their crystals AR'd, they will have to bent the tabs on their own and get the crystal out. I don't know anyone else here, but it's too risky for me to do it. Just thinking about makes the hair on my neck standing up. I'd rather live with the high reflection crystal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 A little update: I recently bought a Skyland v2. It has slightly better AR coating IMHO. Maybe it's because the dial is gray or something, the crystal reflection is a lot less than my v3 black dial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDG Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Might be becasue some skylands are from the hublot factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Hmm, can anybody confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDG Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Miss King can confirm it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 So... only Skyland v2 from Hublot factory? What about the v3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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