sotkfkd6324 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) I found this picture on the web. How do you think? Is it close to the GEN? Is it easy to find differences with GEN at a glance? If it isn't I'll consider buying this item. Thank you. Have a nice day!!! Edited November 12, 2010 by sotkfkd6324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 First it's not genuine if that's what you are asking, GMT hand paint is off color, doesn't have the quality bezel engraving of the genuine, the white gold surrounds look suspicious and lastly, genuines are never sold new with that dead givaway blue protective film. What I suspect is this is a replica with the notorious correct hand stack movement. Notorious because it's has a life expectancy of weeks possibly months, but it is very prone to failure. There are much better reps available on the forum here from trusted dealers, as well as gently used examples that come up for sale here on the forum from time to time. Long story short, DO NOT BUY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotkfkd6324 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 First it's not genuine if that's what you are asking, GMT hand paint is off color, doesn't have the quality bezel engraving of the genuine, the white gold surrounds look suspicious and lastly, genuines are never sold new with that dead givaway blue protective film. What I suspect is this is a replica with the notorious correct hand stack movement. Notorious because it's has a life expectancy of weeks possibly months, but it is very prone to failure. There are much better reps available on the forum here from trusted dealers, as well as gently used examples that come up for sale here on the forum from time to time. Long story short, DO NOT BUY! Thank you for your advise! I'm sure that it's a fake! What I'm asking for is whether this product has definite differnces from the GEN.. In other words, Can you say "Oh! It's a fake, not a gen." as soon as you look at this picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 First off, you need to read and do some research so that you will be familiar with all the "tells" that seperate the genuine from the rep and the good accurate reps from the cheap junk. Start with this review GMT ceramic review As far as this watch, it is an example of what is referred to as the "correct hand stack" (CHS) version. This means that the hands top to bottom are the same as the genuine. Unfortunately, this movement is notoriously unreliable. The more popular version is the"wrong hand stack " (WHS) version, which uses the much more reliable ETA 2836-2 movement with and added GMT module.Here again, you have toi be able to look at the watch close up and know what the correct hand stack looks like to tell a really good accurate rep from a genuine. As far as telling if it is a "Fake", you have to remember that 99.99% of the population can't tell the difference between a Rolex and a Timex unless they can read the writing on the dial. When you are dealing with folks like the ones here on the Rolex forum, they can tell at a glance that this watch is not accurate. For you to get to that stage, you will need to read a lot, and look at lots of photos of genuine watches and accurate replicas so that you are able to tell for yourself the difference between something that is good and something that is trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 In other words, Can you say "Oh! It's a fake, not a gen." as soon as you look at this picture? In a word, yes. It is obviously not the real deal. But, on the positive side, if the price is right (under $100), it might be a good investment because of the correct hand stack movement. Do you know the price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 That looks like the same "Ultimate" GMT Master IIc that everyone has. Non-symmetric rehaut engraving and all that... It's the best rep there is. But yeah, you can still spot it as a rep quickly (if you know what to look for). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 That statue / figurine is disturbing. Run away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotkfkd6324 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Thank you again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotkfkd6324 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 In a word, yes. It is obviously not the real deal. But, on the positive side, if the price is right (under $100), it might be a good investment because of the correct hand stack movement. Do you know the price? Yeah. It costs about 500$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Yeah. It costs about 500$. If you're in... just about any country other than Switzerland... you should be able to find a nice GMT IIc rep NEW for less than half that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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