Guest Sql_pl Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Please have a look at how gen DOXA company treats its customers, it is a repost from another forum: Here we go. Hereby I will present rather sad story about Doxas customer support, service standards, and overall attitude to its clients. At 04/02/2011 I have bought brand new DOXA 5000T Sharkhunter, using direct path and official Doxa site : http://www.doxawatches.co...sharkhunter.htm Payment was transfered using my Paypal account, transaction No 65V072535W482133X. Happy as a puppy - was waiting for a delivery. The parcel left USA at 15/02/2011 by FedEx, tracking No 794426316994 At 20/02/2011 FeEx Warsaw branch got complet documentation and prepayment to proceed with VAT tax and custom fees, delivered by bank transfer at FedEx account in Poland (total amount >$430) The parcel has "in delivery" status, and was to be delivered, when was called back by DOXA itself. I got the mail as follows : Hi Waldemar, There has been a mistake, the wrong watch was shipped to you. We are trying to get it sent back to us, but if you receive a package from DOXA DO NOT ACCEPT IT. Tell them to return to sender. We will get the correct watch sent to you as soon as possible. I am very sorry for this problem! Thank you, Andy Bard Customer Care DOXA Watches www.doxawatches.com customersupport@doxawatches.com The parcel was sended back to Warsaw, and after nother TWO WEEKS was shipped back to US, FedEx No 867603574091 There was no feedback neither from FedEx, nor DOXA concerning the case, even if I have sended mails, contacting by Paypal, by on-line chat, and so on. The case get some speed starting from 11/03/2011. I got the mail from my pale Andy, DOXAs employee of the month for bulling the clients, what I will show to you later. The message goes : Hi Waldemar, We are going to ship your watch to you in the next day or two. First we need to get the VAT from you, it comes to $400. Thank you, Andy Bard Customer Care DOXA Watches www.doxawatches.com customersupport@doxawatches.com OMFG DOXA demands me to pay ADDITIONAL $400, when I have already paid $430 for VAT and custom fees, and still have no watch ! Considering the fact, that DOXA is not responding for my mails, only sending requests, I have tried to get theirs intrest by asking at official DOXA subforum at WUS. The only I have got, was a privat mails like this : No 1 : customer service issue Dear Sie, we are taking care of your problem, we will contact you by email ASAP, please do not post customers ervice issues on the DOXaA forum as this does not comply with the forum rules. PLEASE USE THE PHONE, LIVECHAT OR EMAIL to communicate with DOXA Thank you Great Like there is anything else I was doing for a last three weeks And No 2, even better : why must I pay double VAT tax due to theirs mistake : Re: customer service issue Dear Sir, please email us at help@doxawatches.com. we do not use the forum for communication. We want to send you the watch but the VAT must be added to the price and you actually started a paypal dispute. It is realy very difficult to communicate if you dont understand what we are writing to you Yeap. What a miserable redneck from the Eastern Europe am I, not to understand The Voice of DOXA Holly Virgine. Pitty me, silly me. Must have been gone down from a tree a bit later then my precious pals from DOXA customer support... Have opened a dispute on Paypal, not having the watch, having paid > $830 - it was 4 days till the end of Paypal security cover time. After a chit chat with my precious friends from DOXAs customer support, I belived that this whole thing is just an misunderstanding, and they will help me to resolve the case - anyway, it was my third DOXA watch, first that was sended from the USA (two others I get from Switzerland). So I have paid this additional $400 for VAT ... Suddenly, the 5000T was resended, but not from the USA, but from Austria, that is EU member, and no VAT and custom fees are to be paid As a cherry on a pye - the DOXA arrived broken No sign of life from balance wheel at all. The answer that I have got from DOXA is a kind of its own, but reassembles all that were previous : I was told that have no idea how to wind automatic watch The "monkey down form a tree" case again. What must I do ? Send the watch to DOXA, finally. They will fix it. I did. Paid ADDITIONAL $190 for secured shipment by myself, because as DOXA The Great told me, "the monkey down from the tree", sending the watch cost goes to the sender Did you add the numbers ? If not : the price of the watch from official DOXAs store - gone. Additional $1020 - gone. No watch. DOXA is cool. I am not. But DOXA doesn't care. Still, they HAVE the money, and HAVE the watch. When they get back the second watch - they have closed Paypal dispute by sending me the money back. But not witch additional $1020 that I have paid, just first transaction amount. I logged into DOXAs live chat, and asked for explains. None. Zero. So, no case for Paypal. No case for DOXA. Is a case for me. For the ones interested, my chit-chat with DOXA by Paypal : Paypal transaction 65V072535W482133X Paypal dispute PP-001-244-308-379 SELLER - DOXA WATCHES 14-03-2011 14:58 CET Dear Sir, we sent you the first watch (professional) by fedex, tracking number is FedEx tracking # 794426316994 and we have not received it back yet. We are currently tracing the package. We will ship a substitute today from within the EU once you pay the VAT (New Tracking number is fedex: 479735895191). We sent you a paypal invoice for the 20% VAT and expect payment today. Thank you BUYER 14-03-2011 15:36 CET OK.Waiting for transfer to the private account for paypal. Today or tomorrow I will pay. SELLER - DOXA WATCHES 14-03-2011 17:44 CET Thank you BUYER 15-03-2011 07:13 CET VAT paid. PS- first watch back - nr Fedex 867603574091 BUYER 18-03-2011 12:18 CET Watch arrived but did not work:( What can I do? SELLER - DOXA WATCHES 18-03-2011 13:30 CET The watch was tested before leaving the factory and it works fine. You have to wind the movement in order to make it work. This is an automatic watch and needs to be wound in order to build a power reserve. Please read the owners' manual on the DOXA website or on the CD enclosed in the package. Thank you BUYER 18-03-2011 14:14 CET I bought 2 doxa.I know how the movement. And this does not start at all. SELLER - DOXA WATCHES 18-03-2011 15:00 CET Please return it to our Address in Austria and we will send you a new one: Name: DOXA WATCHES c/o ifactory.at IS GmbH Street: Mauerbachstrasse 40/5 ZIP: A-1140 City: Vienna Country: AUSTRIA Tel: +43 1 577 35 35 11 Thank you DOXA watches Inc. BUYER 18-03-2011 19:00 CET Watch sent Fedex 867602981710 in Vienna on Monday SELLER - DOXA WATCHES 19-03-2011 06:29 CET Thank you, we will replace it ASAP DOXA watches Inc. Looks like DOXA got VAT from me, and VAT refund from FedEx. That makes $800. If it is not the nigerian style fraud - please explain me what is it? 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Guest Sql_pl Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 One thing though, guy behaved a bit like an idiot - why in the world would he pay VAT to Doxa??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 It's all too unfortunate that this has become the norm in nearly every business. Customer service is purely a thing of the past. It just doesn't exist anymore. Bottom line is about making money for the owners of the corporations/businesses and paying out as little as possible to their employees while trying their absolute hardest to NOT provide the best possible product and purchasing experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbiesrock Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 This guy would have done far far better to pay full retail at his local watch store... In-house guarantee, return to base, and would have saved a bundle... It's utterly ironic and almost laughable that the rep dealers here are so eager to help. Considering the exorbitant costs for gens, one would think decent customer service is what contributes to the watch costing so much. Stories like the above make one's blood boil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 No offense, but I really hate these posts. Let me counter the above snafu as-- I have had nothing but a GREAT experience with Doxa / Doxausa / Andy. I have done TWO transactions with Doxa, all with great success and TOTAL satisfaction. (Including FedEx from Switzerland, to me, with duty/customs - non-issue) Lets not let one bad apple spoil the bunch. If you really want, I can go on about a horrible experience I had with Tag and a Movado and their customer service, but I WON'T.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niqlndym Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 On the other hand, their after sales service seems to be excellent. I contacted to DOXA USA to inquire about purchasing a replacement dial for a watch, and they sold me one at a very reasonable price. An incorrect dial was sent from Switzerland (for a similarly named watch). I contacted them, they sent the correct dial, and asked me to mail the wrong one back to the US address. How many other Swiss brands will let you buy replacement parts like that? Hell, how many rep dealers will let you buy parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I guess they are aware nobody really reps Doxas or makes Frankens of these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 On the other hand, their after sales service seems to be excellent. I contacted to DOXA USA to inquire about purchasing a replacement dial for a watch, and they sold me one at a very reasonable price. An incorrect dial was sent from Switzerland (for a similarly named watch). I contacted them, they sent the correct dial, and asked me to mail the wrong one back to the US address. How many other Swiss brands will let you buy replacement parts like that? Hell, how many rep dealers will let you buy parts? Very true. They are very liberal in providing replacement parts. Right now, my two favorite watch manufactures for end-to-end quality and support is DOXA and Ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 took me a second but i LoLed @ The Voice of DOXA Holly Virgine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnipz Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 No offense, but I really hate these posts. Let me counter the above snafu as-- I have had nothing but a GREAT experience with Doxa / Doxausa / Andy. I have done TWO transactions with Doxa, all with great success and TOTAL satisfaction. (Including FedEx from Switzerland, to me, with duty/customs - non-issue) Lets not let one bad apple spoil the bunch. If you really want, I can go on about a horrible experience I had with Tag and a Movado and their customer service, but I WON'T.... Thats nice and all until your the one that ends up getting screwed, these reviews exist to apply some slight force the company to review and regulate its policies. I've heard good things about dealers even in these boards and gotten screwed as well, I really wish I had some negatives reviews of what I may expect otherwise your left looking at only rosy fields.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 A good "Objective" review is always helpful, I agree. However, negative reviews will usually be more prevalent than simple satisfied customers. The whole squeaky wheel syndrome. If you take ONE possible mis-understanding / issue as a deal breaker, so be it. Pick YOUR favorite product / watch brand, and I guarantee you there are plenty of dissatisfied customers. When was the last time you called "Customer Service" to say "how happy you were"? Short of flat out being scammed, by a scammer, my arm-chair observation of "Negative" reviews within these forums and the watch world usually stem from; 1.) Language Barriers (I think there was some of that in this Doxa issue, and I have run into this dealing with our Asian friends) 2.) Impatience 3.) Unrealistic expectations of the product. (Rep or Gen. Hell I have seen people on Gen forums complaining about their NON-COSC watches running +12 a day) Singling out a single GEN manufacturer here on a REP forum, in what might be an isolated incident is my concern. Should I post MY HORROR STORIES here about Movado Group or Tag Heuer? Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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