lhooq Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Are any of you Explorer fans bidding on Item#140559100676? That's the "ROLEX EXPLORER 1016 CASE W/CERTIFICATE. GOOD REPLACMENT" Maybe I'm being paranoid, but it just looks off to me. The lugs appear to be too fat, in both height and width. The lugholes appear to be too narrow, and look like they'll take Datejust- rather than Sub-sized springbars. Finally, the bezel is not nearly wide enough. A real bezel ought to shade the crown. All in all, I'd say Yuki's notoriously inaccurate 1016 case looks better. And here's the kicker I just noticed: Is it me or is the engraved serial number crooked? On the plus side, it comes with a COSC certificate that looks genuine enough. Tread carefully: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetor Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 It's too hard to tell because most of the references that you would see is polished and this one claims to be mint. It does have a superdome tropic though and yes, the stainless steel engraving is crooked. The bezel looks off, much like a datejust bezel. And the lugs (the bottom section) doesn't look like it has the right curves for a mid 60s 1016. It looks like a re-engraved 16200 series datejust to me lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiman12 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 According to the serial, the case is about 66 or 67, which means it should have had a thicker lipped bezel. My Japanese reference books indicte that thin bezels didn't occur until the late 70's/early 80's for the 1016. Plus it does look too small... So...very suspicious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Looks aftermarket to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 According to the serial, the case is about 66 or 67, which means it should have had a thicker lipped bezel. My Japanese reference books indicte that thin bezels didn't occur until the late 70's/early 80's for the 1016. Plus it does look too small... Aagh... I need your reference books! I didn't even know there were documented bezel sub-types! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetor Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 they should have different case sub types too since they've been running for 30+ years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 fake case, or at least fake engravings. Check out the engravings on the serial side. yes, they are crooked, but I've seen that before. But the E' look wrong. Center stroke in the E looks too long for my eyes. Should be shorter in length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo35 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Fake for sure; stay away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Very sketchy indeed! I hate to see someone get taken for $1K+ for a bogus case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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