gran Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 At last we are seeing some SWISS alternatives to ETA and Sellita The Soprod 'Alternance 10' or A-10 is a high end mechanical movement, reputedly better than the ETA 2892: Soprod A-10 is a direct replacement for ETA 2892. The width dimensions are the same between the 2892, 2824, and A-10, so the same hands and dials one used for ETA movements can also be used for the A-10, but the A-10 is 1 mm thicker than the 2824, so casing modifications may be necessary. It has a 42 hour power reserve and hacking seconds. Specs 25.6mm by 3.6mm, 11.5 ligne Automatic, bidirectional winding Quickset date at 3h 25 jewels, Incabloc hacking and Handwinding Adjusted to 4 positions Power reserve 42 hours 28,800 vph Options include big date, visible balance and various customizations. Soprod is one of the very few Swiss movement makers who'll sell in small quantities, which makes this a good choice if you're starting a watch company. LINK: http://www.soprod.ch/mouvement-montre/sop-143.html http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=112219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 do you know any prices Gran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 do you know any prices Gran? Probably more expensive than Sellita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I am looking in to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I am looking in to it Thank you I would very much like to know too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Fleischer Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I'm happy with the SW movements, any truth to the clone rumors. I guess it's a matter of time. The ETA in reps I think are finished- can't tell clone vs. real vs. hybrid anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Soprod Alternance 10 (SOP A 10) Modifications: - Big Date, sesond time zone on sub dial (SOP 9351 / A 10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Standard soprod runs at about 250ch each with orders under 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Thank you so quite expensive they are...and decorated ones even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Thank you so quite expensive they are...and decorated ones even more I think they have a nice standard decoration if I remember from Basel last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 regarding the Miyota 9015 movement..its looks pretty much like the Soprod A10 above....but i guess the Miyota is much less expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3nj4min3 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'm glad to hear of another quality alternative to ETA. The A10 may be pricey but I feel a greater choice of good quality Swiss movements can only be a good thing. The 9015 is a very reasonable price here in the UK, coming in at £65 from Cousins. So £176 for the A10 does seem a little high but then if you know you're getting a high quality Swiss movement that doesn't require servicing for several years (unlike the used ETA's we get now) then the premium could be worth it. It looks to be even better value when compared with a pre-sealed 2892 which is coming in at fairly steep £240 here in the UK. Over £60 more than the A10 and arguably inferior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaPOFL Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 this is very good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I like the 9015 but dials and hands for Etas will not fit them afaik and this sets it back quite a bit because so many project parts are made for Etas and mounting dials without dial feet is a hassle. This is where etaclones have the advantage. "It looks to be even better value when compared with a pre-sealed 2892 which is coming in at fairly steep £240 here in the UK. Over £60 more than the A10 and arguably inferior." £240 = $367US today and US supply houses are asking $275 to $325 for them. I passed on some nos watches in March 2000 with 2892-A2 for $200US each because I did not think they would ever be worth more. Looks like I was wrong. I did latch on to some nos Elgin automatics with Eta 2824-2 a few years back but did not buy many. 100% hindsight as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 TC commissioned and brought to the market an ETA 2836 super clone. It's $120 in single quantities. This post is 2 years old, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I know but the AP Royal Oak 15400 thread made it worth showing again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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